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 Post subject: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:32 am 
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GREATEST R&B MALE VOCALISTS

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http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_rb-vocalists-ma.html

CRITERIA: Vocalists are rated by their ability, in their prime, for vocal range, power, phrasing, dynamics, ability to convey emotion, versatility, uniqueness and influence.


1. Jackie Wilson
2. Roy Hamilton
3. Clyde McPhatter
4. Sam Cooke
5. Marvin Gaye
6. Tony Williams (Platters)
7. Solomon Burke
8. Levi Stubbs (Four Tops)
9. Little Willie John
10. Al Green
11. Smokey Robinson
12. Luther Vandross
13. Ronald Isley (Isley Brothers)
14. Sam Moore (Sam & Dave)
15. Stevie Wonder
16. David Ruffin (Temptations)
17. Jerry Butler
18. Jesse Belvin
19. Michael Jackson
20. Teddy Pendergrass (Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes)
21. Aaron Neville
22. Eddie Kendricks (Temptations)
23. Wilson Pickett
24. Otis Redding
25. Little Richard

26. Ben E. King
27. Big Joe Turner
28. Nate Nelson (Flamingos)
29. Frankie Lymon
30. Usher
31. Johnny Moore (Drifters)
32. BeBe Winans
33. Willie Winfield (Harptones)
34. Donny Hathaway
35. Ray Charles
36. Wayna Morris (Boyz II Men)
37. Bobby Lester (Moonglows)
38. Howard Tate
39. Garnett Mimms
40. Johnny Carter (Dells)
41. Eddie Levert (O'Jays)
42. Billy Stewart
43. Maithe Marshall (Ravens)
44. Prince
45. Philip Bailey (Earth, Wind & Fire)
46. Jimmy Ricks (Ravens)
47. Sonny Til (Orioles)
48. James Carr
49. K-Ci Hailey (Jodeci)
50. Lou Rawls

51. Little Anthony
52. O.V. Wright
53. Marvin Junior (The Dells)
54. Phillipe Wynne (Spinners)
55. Hank Ballard (Midnighters)
56. Curtis Mayfield
57. Richard Berry
58. Eugene Mumford (Larks, Dominoes)
59. Bill Withers
60. William Howard (Dramatics)
61. "Pookie" Hudson (Spaniels)
62. Barry White
63. James Brown
64. Peabo Bryson
65. Bobby Marchan
66. Shawn Stockman (Boyz II Men)
67. Gene Chandler
68. Rudy Lewis (Drifters)
69. Johnnie Taylor
70. Dennis Edwards (Temptations)
71. Johnny Adams
72. Jeffrey Osborne
73. Screamin' Jay Hawkins
74. Gene Allison
75. Russell Thompkins (Stylistics)

76. DeAngelo
77. Tevin Campbell
78. Walter Scott (Whispers)
79. Wallace Scott (Whispers)
80. Major Lance
81. James J.T. Taylor (Kool & The Gang)
82. Nolan Strong (Diablos)
83. Keith Sweat
84. Chuck Jackson
85. Rudy West (Five Keys)
86. Lionel Richie (Commodores)
87. Maxwell
88. Gerald Alston (Manhattans)
89. Frankie Beverly (Maze)
90. Sly Stone
91. Earl "Speedoo" Carroll (Cadillacs)
92. Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men)
93. Eugene Pitt (Jive Five)
94. R. Kelly
95. Harvey Fuqua (Moonglows)
96. Seal
97. Percy Sledge
98. Johnny Ace
99. Buddy Bailey (Clovers)
100. Johnny Tanner (The "5" Royales)


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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nice to meet the original creator of the list...

Wonder could move way way way up.....just above or below Gaye....


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Holy shit.....Sampson, is that YOU?

If you still plan on posting here, this is Josh from way back!


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Yeah, it's me. Nice to see you again Josh.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Soul Man #1! Where the heck have you been hiding?

I want to take this opportunity to thank you for introducing me to Jackie Wilson. Guy has blown me away on many occasions and is now one of my favorite vocalists of all time.
I think you pretty much are responsible for Wilson's surging popularity on this site.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Umm, cough cough, who the devil's been giving you all Jackie's recordings? Talk about a short bloody memory! :lol:

Seriously though, great that Sampson's here as he can explain far more the specific talents of these singers than me.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Victim Of Changes wrote:
Soul Man #1! Where the heck have you been hiding?

I want to take this opportunity to thank you for introducing me to Jackie Wilson. Guy has blown me away on many occasions and is now one of my favorite vocalists of all time.
I think you pretty much are responsible for Wilson's surging popularity on this site.


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Umm, cough cough, who the devil's been giving you all Jackie's recordings? Talk about a short bloody memory! :lol:

Seriously though, great that Sampson's here as he can explain far more the specific talents of these singers than me.


C'mon, fellas, there's plenty of credit to go around... as long as at least some of it goes to me!

But in response to Josh's statement on introducing Jackie Wilson to people here, when there were no black artists at all on the Rock Vocalist list I just felt I had to start off with the guy who'd grab the most ears with his voice and so it was an easy choice. I was actually worried more about some of the arrangements and song selection than anything when it came to getting him accepted and therefore opening people's minds to actually making the overall Vocalist List as inclusive and diverse as it should be. But I only started that ball rolling, I left very shortly after he started getting listened to and it was Nick more than anyone who kept pushing for him to be heard and fully appreciated. He may not think he can explain the singer's talents as well, but he can do it far more tactfully than I can and not bruise as many egos in the process, and sometimes around here that's twice as important when it comes to radically changing people's minds. Besides, I think Jackie's talents speak for themselves and almost anything said by me would be superfluous.

Now that Jackie's widely accepted, can we please get some discussion going here and elsewhere on a few other elite singers on this list? Let's just, for the sake of experiment, try starting with someone whose name I haven't seen mentioned at all, in Little Willie John.

Fever (nice clip to look at too!) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5yKn9y83Ic&feature=related

Suffering With The Blues -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqY1gpfvL_0&feature=related

Talk To Me, Talk To Me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkukAk0FwSQ&feature=related

You Better Leave My Kitten Alone - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAPgOpzckw&feature=related

Start with those, bring some more people over from the other forum threads, and let's hear some feedback.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Little Willie John has an awesome, soulful voice. Great shout out.
And why did Roy Hamilton move all the way up to #2? I'm not complaining, as I love his singing, it's just that he was always in the 10-15 range before.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Just based on those few clips, Little Willie John's got quite a resonant voice for someone who's voice is placed so high. Really nice controlled vibrato. He does a lot of really subtle things, like short little runs and quick register switches.. Stuff that isn't exactly mind-blowing but does require a pretty decent amount of skill, especially to execute it all as well as he does.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Warning: the list does not represent the criteria accurately. Or even closely.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Jestercide wrote:
Warning: the list does not represent the criteria accurately. Or even closely.


How so?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Cruz wrote:
Just based on those few clips, Little Willie John's got quite a resonant voice for someone who's voice is placed so high. Really nice controlled vibrato. He does a lot of really subtle things, like short little runs and quick register switches.. Stuff that isn't exactly mind-blowing but does require a pretty decent amount of skill, especially to execute it all as well as he does.


Yeah, and he was just a teenager when he did all that.

Here's his first hit, cut when he was 16.

All Around The World (AKA Grits Ain't Groceries) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u00ytxRIZDk&feature=related


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Sampson , we at the vocal thread decided to give 50 % of the importance to influence/impact when making a 'greatest' list, do you agree with that ?? If so , then I would ask the placement of Stevie Wonder , cause I would assume him to be much higher than he is....


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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Sampson wrote:
ability to convey emotion


Great criteria. I try to include this element on the Guitarists forum but I couldn’t convince them. They say it is too subjective. What do you think?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest R&B Male Vocalists
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I think it is....


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