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corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm **Posts:** 14836

ClashWho wrote:

Brett Alan wrote:

corrections wrote:

ClashWho wrote:

There's a substantial difference between a bootleg and a pirated album.

The effect of your harm has no bearing on your status as a thief. The band and the label (absent circumstances where they actually encourage it) don't want you bootlegging concerts. Your violating their intellectual property rights. Therefore, (under your rules) you're a thief.

Where did he say that?

If his position is that you should never download or copy music you could pay for, then there's nothing inherently inconsistent about that.

Bingo. Thanks, Brett.

That's not what your position used to be. And you could have bought concert tickets.

Yousha · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:51 am

After multiple listens, though I like the album quite a bit, but still,

Superfly is overrated and Curtis>>Superfly

ClashWho · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:45 pm **Posts:** 19396

corrections wrote:

That's not what your position used to be.

I'm pretty sure it is.

corrections wrote:

And you could have bought concert tickets.

In some cases I did. In other cases I wasn't born yet. In still others I was like five-years-old. In other cases, I was on a different continent. In all cases, I would purchase it if it were to be commercially released.

Georgi · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:37 pm **Posts:** 7274

Clash, do you have a room in your house full of Who stuff?

ClashWho · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:45 pm **Posts:** 19396

Nope. Maybe someday.

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm **Posts:** 14836

ClashWho wrote:

corrections wrote:

That's not what your position used to be.

I'm pretty sure it is.

corrections wrote:

And you could have bought concert tickets.

In some cases I did. In other cases I wasn't born yet. In still others I was like five-years-old. In other cases, I was on a different continent. In all cases, I would purchase it if it were to be commercially released.

So you do recognize that the laws as they exist are flawed (they would make no distinction between a bootleg download and a CD download)? And your position really can't be that either is theft.

ClashWho · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:45 pm **Posts:** 19396

Downloading a commercially available album for free is theft. I don't know how you could argue otherwise. Unless it's something like Radiohead's In Rainbows.

dreamcoil · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 am

no it isn't. theft is removal of property.
it isn't wrong either. ipso facto.
neither is it damaging the artist.
why are we having this argument in like 4 threads on the forum now

ClashWho · **Joined:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:45 pm **Posts:** 19396

dreamcoil wrote:

no it isn't. theft is removal of property.

You're using an archaic definition. Do you get all pedantic like this when someone says Dane Cook stole Louis C.K.'s jokes?

chicken sandwich · **Joined:** Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:28 pm **Posts:** 2917

Yousha wrote:

After multiple listens, though I like the album quite a bit, but still,

Superfly is overrated and Curtis>>Superfly

I always thought Curtis was more popular than Superfly? I mean Curtis has move on up and shit.

Yousha · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:53 pm

Negative. Superfly is usually considered to be his masterpiece. also, Superfly was a number 1 album for 4 weeks, Curtis barely cracked the top 20. Superfly had 2 top 10 singles, Curtis none. Also, Superfly has Pusherman and the title track, both bigger than any song on Curtis. Also, higher RYM ratings, higher greatest list ratings, and I could go on.

BUT, Curtis is better.

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:49 pm **Posts:** 3794

I used to think that. But alas, no.

Tudwell · **Joined:** Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:06 am **Posts:** 4150

Superfly is by no means a bad album, but it is very boring compared to the genius of Curtis.

corrections · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm **Posts:** 14836

ClashWho wrote:

Downloading a commercially available album for free is theft. I don't know how you could argue otherwise. Unless it's something like Radiohead's In Rainbows.

OH so if I take a painting from someone's private collection that isn't commercially available that's no theft? What a wonderful relief!

Dreww · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 5835

*looks at thread title*
Both of the big Curtis Mayfield albums are boring.

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