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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:14 am 
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i dont know anything about advanced stats, but i was reading a quick article and it pointed out advanced stats say Jeter isnt great on defense, but that he had the least amount of errors and highest fielding % for anyone who played that many games. also 3rd in double plays turned. idk, like i said idk anything about advanced stats, but i played the game for several years and i dont remember anything too complicated about playing defense. you either stop the ball but not get the out, stop the ball and get the out, or don't stop the ball. hard to imagine needing advanced stats to tell me who is better at that.


Watching Jeter all these years, he always struck me as a slightly above average defensive shortstop who could make an amazing play every once in a while. He pretty consistently makes the play when the ball is near him, but doesn't get to as many balls as some other shortstops. The doubleplay stat is nice, but I wonder how many of those were due to Yankee pitching.

(Also A-Rod was a better defensive shortstop than Jeter).


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Three reds. Woot woot. Best fielding team fo sho.


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and jeter is a sub-par defender


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pave wrote:
i dont know anything about advanced stats, but i was reading a quick article and it pointed out advanced stats say Jeter isnt great on defense, but that he had the least amount of errors and highest fielding % for anyone who played that many games. also 3rd in double plays turned. idk, like i said idk anything about advanced stats, but i played the game for several years and i dont remember anything too complicated about playing defense. you either stop the ball but not get the out, stop the ball and get the out, or don't stop the ball. hard to imagine needing advanced stats to tell me who is better at that.


Jeter has a low error total because he has shit range (and always has) so balls that look like they're too hard to get to (and thus not scored an error) are something that another short stop if he missed would get to and get counted as an error. Jeter before A-Rod got there was pretty much bottom of the barrel on defense (the joke was when he first came into the league that his name was "Past a diving Jeter"). Once A-Rod got there he improved to about league average. A-Rod was certainly the better defensive shortstop but Jeter was the captain. I strongly suspect that when he got there they had him cover more ground in their D.

As far as playing defense shortstop is definitely pretty complicated.


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pave wrote:
i dont know anything about advanced stats, but i was reading a quick article and it pointed out advanced stats say Jeter isnt great on defense, but that he had the least amount of errors and highest fielding % for anyone who played that many games. also 3rd in double plays turned. idk, like i said idk anything about advanced stats, but i played the game for several years and i dont remember anything too complicated about playing defense. you either stop the ball but not get the out, stop the ball and get the out, or don't stop the ball. hard to imagine needing advanced stats to tell me who is better at that.


Watching Jeter all these years, he always struck me as a slightly above average defensive shortstop who could make an amazing play every once in a while. He pretty consistently makes the play when the ball is near him, but doesn't get to as many balls as some other shortstops. The doubleplay stat is nice, but I wonder how many of those were due to Yankee pitching.

(Also A-Rod was a better defensive shortstop than Jeter).


The problem being of course that he doesn't make many balls actually be near him. I've always thought that his "amazing" plays are plays that a guy like Tejada in his prime would have made routine. Where Jeter would have made a diving play Tejada would have been right in front of the ball and calmly fielded it.


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It would be awesome if the Reds traded Johnny Cueto, Yonder Alonso, Mes, and Mike Leake for Ryan Braun. Just sayin'.


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It would be awesome if the Reds traded Johnny Cueto, Yonder Alonso, Mes, and Mike Leake for Ryan Braun. Just sayin'.


That would be a terrible trade.


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lonewolf371 wrote:
It would be awesome if the Reds traded Johnny Cueto, Yonder Alonso, Mes, and Mike Leake for Ryan Braun. Just sayin'.


That would be a terrible trade.

Well his contract makes him one of the best values in baseball. That's what it would take to move him.


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The problem being of course that he doesn't make many balls actually be near him. I've always thought that his "amazing" plays are plays that a guy like Tejada in his prime would have made routine. Where Jeter would have made a diving play Tejada would have been right in front of the ball and calmly fielded it.


I mean things like diving into the stands. Jeter certainly has hustle, even if he lacks range.


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hell yeah, Buster Posey.


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hell yeah, Buster Posey.

Totally deserved it. I have him in a fantasy keeper league, but I'll probably drop him because it seems like there's so many catcher prospects out there right now that someone else will probably come up like him next season.


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Felix won the Cy Young! Awesome. He definitely deserves it.


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FUCK W.A.R! im all about votto.


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vottolicious


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Pretty big day on the hot stove. Gonzalez to Red Sox, then not. Werth to Nationals, if I'm not mistaken, for 18 mil a year. While picking up a hitter like Werth from a division leader is a good move, I'm afraid they overpaid for him.


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