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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:35 am 
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Still doesn't change the fact that they were one of the first bands to play extended versions of their music that were nothing like what they were in the studio to make a completely unique live experience.




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Oooohhhhh, what NOW Clash?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Beeverteeth, could you clarify who you meant by "they"? When you first said it, I thought you meant Phish. Your latest post makes me think you meant The Dead.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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beaverteeth92 wrote:

As a huge Dead Head, I have to say this is a terrible choice for a video as a response.

First off, Morning Dew is a cover, and secondly, this is from the first year that the GD covered it. Maybe if you had posted a video from a '74 version or something, it would have been somewhat acceptable, but it's still a cover.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Brian wrote:
Beeverteeth, could you clarify who you meant by "they"? When you first said it, I thought you meant Phish. Your latest post makes me think you meant The Dead.


I did mean The Grateful Dead. And so what if that video is a cover? Covering songs in the band's specific style is a trademark of jam bands. That's just one of the many things The Grateful Dead originated.

Also still no mention of The Flaming Lips on this list?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Thanks for clarifying. Your post seemed to be in response to what I said, but my only point was that I thought it was right that an artist varying his playlist from night to night isn't part of the criteria, because that only matters if an artist has lots of fans that see them more than one night in a row, and for more than half of the artists on the list, that wouldn't be the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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You posted morning Morning Dew in response to this:

beaverteeth92 wrote:
Still doesn't change the fact that they were one of the first bands to play extended versions of their music that were nothing like what they were in the studio to make a completely unique live experience.


beaverteeth92 wrote:
I did mean The Grateful Dead. And so what if that video is a cover? Covering songs in the band's specific style is a trademark of jam bands. That's just one of the many things The Grateful Dead originated.

But to strengthen your argument regarding evolution of songs from their studio versions, why would you post a video of a cover (yes, I know that there is a studio version of MD, but still, why not pick an original?)


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Brian wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. Your post seemed to be in response to what I said, but my only point was that I thought it was right that an artist varying his playlist from night to night isn't part of the criteria, because that only matters if an artist has lots of fans that see them more than one night in a row, and for more than half of the artists on the list, that wouldn't be the case.


True, but it's an important part of The Grateful Dead as a live act, as they pioneered so much. They were the first band to do really long extended jams on studio material, the first to have fans follow them all over the place, the first to do extended covers and completely different setlists every night, first to encourage fans to trade bootleg tapes of their shows, etc. They are essentially THE live band, defining their career entirely on the basis of their live performances and cult following that developed because of it.

Also, here's one of their own songs played live in 1967:



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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Negative Creep wrote:
Oooohhhhh, what NOW Clash?


There's no "what now". I just wanted to post a reminder that, in addition to all their other live credentials, The Who were even jamming pretty dang early, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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They jammed, but that doesn't make them a jam band. There's a difference between doing one or two extended versions of songs and making every single one of your concerts extended songs with different arrangements only.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
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Thin lizzy?
Rainbow ? they had a great show, the giant rainbow alone is enough to get them a spot

Daft punk ?

Rammstein ?

these bands also have great shows


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:29 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd82gAEFpTE


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:51 am 
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1. James Brown
2. Elvis Presley
3. The Who
4. Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band

BS and the E didn't contribute nearly as much to the live rock show as the other three, and they certainly aren't sufficiently more highly regarded as live performers than the other three to overcome that.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Live Rock Artists
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:59 am 
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I think the Who's status as a live band is a bit overrated, maybe I haven't seen them enough live, but there are other artists that
are great and doesn't have this status, funkadelic for example, I think there live shows add more to the music then the who's shows do, again only my opinion...

But they deserve to be in top 3 as you said,


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