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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:07 pm 
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Nah, fuck that, move The Chronic up.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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GlassJoe wrote:
Shouldn't "Superunknown" by Soundgarden be on here? It's above both Nas' "Illmatic" and TLC's CrazySexyCool on the list of top 1994 albums, as well as the overall '90s list so there isn't much consistency anyway.

I'd suggest adding "In Utero" as well.


Fuck yes, Superunknown is SG's masterpiece and one of the best rock albums of the 90's. Easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:58 pm 
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I don't know why Lauryn Hill is at 47 while others like OK Computer are lower at 65.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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It's a question of whether Lauryn's large advantage in popularity is enough to make up for Radiohead's advantage in influence and musical impact, keeping in mind that Lauryn also has high musical impact. I'd have Radiohead higher myself, but I can see how it could go the other way.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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At the very least, Radiohead shouldn't be as far behind as they are.


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You have to look at the albums in between. There's no point in picking two random albums really far apart and saying, why is x here and y there?


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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Okay. Well, I'd say OK Computer could be greater than Ramones. It wins popularity and impact, I think, and is pretty influential though not to the level that Ramones is.


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Here's what I mean. Do you think OK Computer should move up above Ramones or Ramones should move down below OK Computer?


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Tbh, I haven't thought that far through. Obviously I would if this list was ever going to be revised. But naw.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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Quote:
11. Nevermind (1991) - Nirvana
12. Elvis Presley (1956) - Elvis Presley


Imo, Nevermind only takes popularity....


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Maybe impact, too.


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Johnny wrote:
I don't know why Lauryn Hill is at 47 while others like OK Computer are lower at 65.


I do think Miseducation... is too high. It had considerable musical impact and a bit of popularity, but it seems really lacking in influence, as it wasn't particularly groundbreaking, nor did many artists take ideas from it -- at least to my knowledge.

And OK Computer is indeed too low in any case.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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Zach wrote:
Maybe impact, too.


The musical impact of both albums was in the stratosphere. But I think Presley's gets the edge for being more of a foundation for ALL rock albums in general.

Nevermind's impact was profound, no question that it changed things as they needed to be changed. But still, I think the importance factor here goes to the Elvis album. First all-rock album to hit #1 and all....


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I can see Thriller in Top 3 and Nevermind in top 10.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of All Time
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I remember when I really wanted to work on this list's revision. I got up to the top 30 and totally forgot about it. Here it was:

1. Sgt. Pepper
2. Pet Sounds
3. What's Going On
4. Revolver
5. Highway 61 Revisited
6. Live At The Apollo
7. Rubber Soul
8. Thriller
9. Dark Side Of The Moon
10. Are You Experienced?
11. Nevermind
12. Elvis Presley
13. Exile On Main St.
14. Born To Run
15. Blonde On Blonde
16. Abbey Road
17. It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
18. London Calling
19. Innervisions
20. Who's Next
21. Purple Rain
22. Led Zeppelin II
23. Songs In The Key Of Life
24. The Joshua Tree
25. Modern Sounds In Country And Western Music
26. Rumours
27. The Beatles (The White Album)
28. Blue
29. The Velvet Underground And Nico
30. Tapestry

Aside from the Nevermind - EP thing, I think this is pretty solid.


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