Forgotten Son wrote:
A big deal because the developers and fans made them a big deal. Both had some awesomely sexy looking games as well as pieces of crap. Donkey Kong Country and Star Fox? I see you with Sonic 3D and Virtua Racing.
I'd say the former look better in addition to being far superior games.
Don't get me wrong. I'm by no means biased towards the SNES, I actually prefer the Genesis. And I don't mean to downplay the graphics of that system. I mean Genesis had fucking Vectorman.
Road Rash? Super Monaco GP?
The Genesis couldn't scale or rotate backgrounds, instead games like that achieved their pseudo 3D effect by simply swapping sprites. That's something even 8 bit systems like the NES and Master System could do.
But trust me, games like Super Mario Kart or Pilotwings would have not been possible on Genesis. And many SNES games took advantage of the mode 7 chip in some way.
Graphics improvements over the previous generation have pushed gaming forward now. Are you saying the graphical improvements of 360, PS3 and, to a lesser extent, the Wii haven't allowed for more advanced gaming experiences?
Of course not.
In fact I believe that 360 and PS3 have achieved so much that I think focusing more time and money on graphical power is a waste. Developers have these amazing tools at their disposal. But many of them are content with just making brown shooters for the rest of their career.
How is that not realism?
Ok, that wasn't the best example I could have used. But it's still a good example of developers having to use genius compromise.
Ever wonder why the old Silent Hills were so foggy? It provided great atmosphere of course. But it was also a very clever way to mask pop up and the PS1's severe limits in draw distance.
Not to say the N64 didn't also have this problem, as many games used similar effects. But again smoother textures and less jaded polygons did a lot in it's favor to produce more vibrant looking games.
We've seen a similar leap with the current generation, from DVDs to Blu-ray. I previously mentioned LA Noire. That game comes on three discs for the 360 and only one on the PS3.
But that's more about space than graphical power.
Good God why?
If the PS1 could manage this:
Then why do you think it impossible for it to manage this:
Ok maybe PD wasn't the best example.
But I still say a game like Ocarina of Time would have looked much blockier on the PS1. And imagine if it had loading times.
I think they would have done. It was a new console on the market and it had a number of very good titles. Sure Halo was their big seller, but they had more big sellers than that. You wouldn't say that no one would have cared about the Mega Drive if it weren't for Sonic.
Oh ok. That was overly harsh.
The Genesis had already grown a good reputation for it's near perfect arcade ports. But it's popularity definitely exploded with Sonic, yes.
The 360 has outsold the PS3 because the 360 came out first and had a number of great, then exclusive titles. The PS3 has had to struggle to catch it up. The PS3 now has more exclusives because after it had established itself it was the more technologically up-to-date console than the 360, with technology allowing for games like Heavy Rain which the 360 couldn't mimic. Blu-ray discs winning out over HD discs was also incredibly important in this, with the PS3 allowing much bigger games than the 360 without having it spread over numerous discs.
Ok you win. But that's still more about space than graphical power.
My main point was merely that older consoles had more of an identity when it came to the actual kind of games that came out for them. It didn't always have to do with the hardware specifics but rather the output of the first party companies and the third party developers the systems attracted.
PS1 and PS2 are still the two best selling consoles of all time. Neither had the best graphics of their time, they simply had the most varied libraries of games.
PS3 has the same thing going for it. The Wii may not be terribly varied, but it has something very distinct going for it. 360 doesn't have anything that couldn't work on PS3, nor does it attract any specific kind of games that the PS3 is lacking in.
If somebody would rather have a 360, it would be because he prefers what few exclusives it has and nothing else.