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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:10 am 
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Yousha wrote:
also , no Bootleg performances allowed , just to make sure... its difficult to acquire and if mentioned , should be of decent quality and available . ..

on that note rv, since the last 2 songs you mentioned are bootleg performances of EJ, are there any links for those ? then id put them by the side when i put it up .... and i dont think anyone's going to doubt your EJ list .... but i'll still wait for a while to see if someone has anything to say about it ....
yeah sure. also i think its fine to mention bootlegs if they are a unique/brilliant performance, obviously not at the sacrifice of sufficient legally available performances though


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:11 am 
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it would be fine to mention bootlegs if they're available to link up ... naming some godforsaken bootleg noone has access to is highly fair on people wanting to listen to it .....


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:12 am 
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Yousha wrote:
its in my posting style to call people sir when showing respect ... look around you'll know , and nah, by all means, please make the list .... there's nothing wrong with 2 people making a list anyway , and more than anything else , im curious to know more about the tracks from his BN days ... so if you do find the time , please contribute .. and yes, Beck and Blackmore will have and do deserve the longest lists .... if you could break it down between eras - aka - Purple , Rainbow and solo, that would be awesome :cheers:


Yousha thank you for the consideration my friend and like you I would really enjoy seeing a list from Rusty. I always find it interesting when different folks enjoy the same music or guitarists but then might have completely different choices in the songs of that same artist..... Take care

... for example here is a tune I would choice but not sure anyone else would ... and besides the guitar work, the drumming is equally interesting



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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:15 am 
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I just updated The Beatles lists. Maybe it could be added?

Top 10 Guitar Solos by The Beatles

1. Taxman (McCartney)
2. The End (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
3. Something (Harrison)
4. While my Guitar Gently Weeps (Clapton)
5. Let it Be (Harrison)
6. And your Bird can Sing (Harrison/McCartney)
7. I Want You (Lennon)
8. Get Back (Lennon)
9. Drive My Car (McCartney)
10. Can´t Buy Me Love (Harrison)



Top 50 Guitar Performances by The Beatles

1. Taxman (McCartney/Harrison)
2. Something (Harrison)
3. Helter Skelter (McCartney/Harrison)
4. Day Tripper (Lennon/Harrison)
5. I Saw Her Standing There (Harrison/Lennon)
6. Revolution (Lennon/Harrison)
7. I Feel Fine (Lennon/Harrison)
8. A Hard Day´s Night (Harrison/Lennon)
9. I Want You (Lennon/Harrison)
10. The End (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
11. While My Guitar Gently Weeps (Clapton/Harrison/Lennon)
12. And Your Bird Can Sing (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
13. Blackbird (McCartney)
14. Here Comes the Sun (Harrison)
15. Drive My Car (McCartney/Harrison)
16. Paperback Writer (McCartney/Harrison)
17. Dear Prudence (Lennon/Harrison)
18. Yer Blues (Lennon/Harrison)
19. She's A Woman (McCartney/Lennon/Harrison)
20. Ticket to Ride (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
21. Help! (Harrison/Lennon)
22. She Said She Said (Harrison/Lennon)
23. Back In The U.S.S.R. (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
24. Everybody's Got Something To Hide (Harrison/Lennon)
25. In My Life (Harrison/Lennon)
26. Get Back (Lennon/Harrison)
27. Norwegian Wood (Lennon/Harrison)
28. All My Loving (Lennon/Harrison)
29. Sgt Pepper´s Lonely Hearts Club Band (McCartney/Lennon/Harrison)
30. Come Together (Harrison/Lennon)
31. I'm Looking Through You (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
32. Polythene Pam (Lennon/McCartney/Harrison)
33. She Came Through the Bathroom Window (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
34. Birthday (Lennon)
35. I´ve Got a Feeling (Harrison/Lennon)
36. I Me Mine (Harrison)
37. Happiness is a Warm Gun (Lennon/Harrison)
38. She Loves You (Harrison/Lennon)
39. Bad Boy (Harrison/Lennon)
40. Across the Universe (Lennon/Harrison)
41. Hey Bulldog (Harrison/Lennon )
42. Sun King (Lennon/Harrison)
43. Nowhere Man (Harrison/Lennon)
44. Sgt Pepper´s Lonely Hearts Club Band Reprise (Lennon/Harrison)
45. I Want to Hold Your Hand (Harrison/Lennon)
46. Love You To (Harrison)
47. Another Girl (McCartney/Lennon/Harrison)
48. Strawberry Fields Forever (Lennon/Harrison/McCartney)
49. Can´t Buy Me Love (Lennon/Harrison)
50. You Never Give Me Your Money (Harrison/Lennon)

Honorable Mentions: Good Morning Good Morning, Dr. Robert, Let it Be, Tomorrow Never Knows, You Got To Hide Your Love Away, Julia, A Day in the Life, I Call Your Name, Yesterday, Octopus's Garden, If I Needed Someone, Dig a Pony, and Two of Us.


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:26 am 
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Yousha wrote:
its in my posting style to call people sir when showing respect ... look around you'll know , and nah, by all means, please make the list .... there's nothing wrong with 2 people making a list anyway , and more than anything else , im curious to know more about the tracks from his BN days ... so if you do find the time , please contribute .. and yes, Beck and Blackmore will have and do deserve the longest lists .... if you could break it down between eras - aka - Purple , Rainbow and solo, that would be awesome :cheers:


Ok I'll make a rough draft of what an RB list would look like and then fellow RB fans can comment and contribute and you can post it when we all agree on it. And yeah I'll break it down between eras and make lets say 10 tunes for studio (probably 15 in Purple's case) and 10 for live work for DP, Rainbow and BN and top 3-5 essential albums from those eras. Perhaps I'll even touch the session work or at least the best of his pre DP work, though I wanna leave that to gminer since thats one area I never looked at aside from the odd compilation stuff. And I'll post short comments on the tunes like George did for Terry Kath. And maybe a short top 10 performances from officialy non released stuff but high quality (pro shot) that is on youtube and isnt covered via official releases, like the 90's Rainbow. Hell I may even post the videos on youtube myself and thus ensure that it stays on there as long as there's YT. I'll see. I'll make it in the next few days.


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:43 am 
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Rusty,

Maybe we could pull a few of the items already posted, for example, I would think many of the instrumentals from the BN era would be of interest to those who love accomplished melodic acoustic playing ...

..BN acoustic instrumentals

Minstrel Hall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-TyW9ivQq0

Memmingen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP3zfdke3do

Mond Tanz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ5eUZCQlbg

Possum's Last Dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRHQZyu0yow

Possum Goes to Prague

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsThEJ7f2Q

Beyond the Sunset

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5l96u9TIzY

... and live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAOlLM96mw

Durch Den Wald Zum Bach Haus - live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJigtW87J_Y

Fayre Thee Well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wAMrb8rWsU

Praetorius (Courante)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiFN3emxgn4

Nur eine Minute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkiNeHtUOLI

Mr. Peagram's Morris and Sword

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXic3fDkPXI

The Messenger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJ1o9YAqMc

Village Dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y83uwL6vumQ

Winter (Basse Dance)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C1EhIT1ePI

Prince Waldeck's Galliard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr7Yn6MmAWE

Night at Eggersberg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BzsYsth2e0

... and then there are the BN tunes with just exceptional playing like ....

Shadow of the Moon
Wish You Were Here
Self Portrait
Ghost of a Rose
I Still Remember
Fires at Midnight
The Storm

... to name a few .... Take care


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:49 am 
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Oh yes, deffinetly, the instrumentals and many BN tunes should be included. BTW if you or anyone else has an idea for what the list could look like in format by all means go wild with your creativity. Like I said I think there should be a rough draft and then we can all chip in and mold it until it looks perfect - like Ritchie's longetivity and quality deserves. I also want Jeff Beck list to be like that and I know George will see to it.

And it just came to me what a great idea this topic is. To really have a reference point for guitarists like this will be great for anyone looking to get into any of these players or just use it for inspiration and spreading the horizons.


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
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Echoes - UNNUMBERED .....

and im not having 50 songs by the beatles ..... sorry man ..... about 15 .... perhaps ...so i'll take the 1st 15 .... im not dissing the beatles by any means ... but 50 is too much ....


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:55 am 
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Well, done with Marty's. Really tough to make, actually... I'm not even sure if I like, but I tried with a lot of combinations, this is one I feel good about. Anyway, some help from you would be awesome, check if you like and feel free to make changes.

I did a Top Ten and then added ten more that still are awesome. Hope you like it.

Top Ten

Bittersweet (Solo): this is a weird choice, I guess, but it shows the Arabian style that Marty loves. Wonderful piece.
Devil Take You Tomorrow (Solo): to be honest, the perfection of this songs scares me. The variety of sounds makes you believe that that guitar has its own life.
Forbidden City (Solo): this is Marty showing skills, but more showing how to use those skills. Every single second counts here.
Glowing Path (Solo): this is one of his most complex works, with so many changes, using scales that I’m still trying to get. The whole song could be an opera.
Hangar 18 (Megadeth): you know what’s so great about this song? The way Marty let his hands fly, he sounds really free. He’s too professional to think he improvised but the way he plays here is so fresh, even when the tempo changes he looks so sure. It’s always easy when you have Dave Mustaine playing with you, of course.
Lovesorrow (Solo): this melody is so cool, you close your eyes and you’re in a new world, full of guitars coming from nowhere.
Speed Metal Symphony (Cacophony): well, this is like the Holy Bible of guitar virtuosity.
The Ninja (Cacophony): for me, the best by Cacophony come with the exotic songs, the ones that sound a little dark, like this. No offense to Jason Becker (I love him), but the best by this band came when Marty showed his style.
Tornado of Souls (Megadeth): coolest guitar solo in metal. Yeah, just that.
Valley of Eternity (Solo): this is it, boy; you won’t get better than this. Just when you thought you’d seen it all, Marty comes with a powerful guitar solo to end slowly. Enchanting song, simply the best.

Runners-Up (still great)

Coloreas Mi Vida (Solo)
Concerto (Cacophony)
Dragon Mistress (Solo)
High Speed Dirt (Megadeth)
Jewel (Solo)
Lucretia (Megadeth)
Namida (Solo)
Night (Solo)
Saturation Point (Solo)
Thunder March (Solo)

"Solo" means Solo career not "guitar solo", btw... and the order is alphabetical.


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:05 am 
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i might actually ask my friend who's a big Marty fan himself to see if he has any input .... that looks solid though .... and very well done too Sid, thanks :cheers:


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:12 am 
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Yousha wrote:
Echoes - UNNUMBERED .....

and im not having 50 songs by the beatles ..... sorry man ..... about 15 .... perhaps ...so i'll take the 1st 15 .... im not dissing the beatles by any means ... but 50 is too much ....


I reduce it to 25. Those songs are essential to understand The Beatles importance to rock guitar. I also took out the solos.

Top 25 Guitar Performances by The Beatles

Taxman (McCartney/Harrison)
Something (Harrison)
Helter Skelter (McCartney/Harrison)
Day Tripper (Lennon/Harrison)
I Saw Her Standing There (Harrison/Lennon)
Revolution (Lennon/Harrison)
I Feel Fine (Lennon/Harrison)
A Hard Day´s Night (Harrison/Lennon)
I Want You (Lennon/Harrison)
The End (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps (Clapton/Harrison/Lennon)
And Your Bird Can Sing (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
Blackbird (McCartney)
Here Comes the Sun (Harrison)
Drive My Car (McCartney/Harrison)
Paperback Writer (McCartney/Harrison)
Dear Prudence (Lennon/Harrison)
Yer Blues (Lennon/Harrison)
She's A Woman (McCartney/Lennon/Harrison)
Ticket to Ride (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
Help! (Harrison/Lennon)
She Said She Said (Harrison/Lennon)
Back In The U.S.S.R. (McCartney/Harrison/Lennon)
Everybody's Got Something To Hide (Harrison/Lennon)
In My Life (Harrison/Lennon)


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 Post subject: Re: Guitarists' Essential Works
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:21 am 
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Yousha wrote:
Echoes - UNNUMBERED .....

and im not having 50 songs by the beatles ..... sorry man ..... about 15 .... perhaps ...so i'll take the 1st 15 .... im not dissing the beatles by any means ... but 50 is too much ....


... this might get off track if we list the music of bands rather than individual guitarists ... imagine if we started lists with all the guitarists that played for Deep Purple at one time or another .... Take care


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:30 am 
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Yousha wrote:
i might actually ask my friend who's a big Marty fan himself to see if he has any input .... that looks solid though .... and very well done too Sid, thanks :cheers:


:cheers:

Oh, about Mustaine's: it looks really solid. I can't say anything about any of the songs mentioned (I was about to go crazy on Skull Beneath the Skin but then I gave it another listen and it is that great). However, hurts to not see Tornado of Souls, I understand: Marty steals the show, but check what Mustaine (as a composer) does there: the main riff is just insane, arguably the best Megadeth riff ever; then, the rhythm is insane, too, especially right after the solo. I also thought you would choose My Last Words, which shows a really cool solo. Anyway, no any significant change must be done. It's a fine list.


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rockvirtuoso wrote:
cliffs of dover (any recording)
true, they're all amazing.

but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ql8mlSU0fI

this sound quality isn't good; this is slightly better...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hx9ch3

(unfortunately, it's not the whole thing, it starts at about the 3:15 mark of the full version)

yngtchie once said that his heart skipped a beat at the 5:40 mark of the full version (about 2:22 mark of the file)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:02 pm 
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gminer wrote:
Yousha wrote:
Echoes - UNNUMBERED .....

and im not having 50 songs by the beatles ..... sorry man ..... about 15 .... perhaps ...so i'll take the 1st 15 .... im not dissing the beatles by any means ... but 50 is too much ....


... this might get off track if we list the music of bands rather than individual guitarists ... imagine if we started lists with all the guitarists that played for Deep Purple at one time or another .... Take care


The Beatles are a special case and it should be treated as such.


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