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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Doctor_Pik_Jr wrote:
Strange how much better McCartney did compared to Lennon.


Not at all. McCartney and Wings released much more material than John Lennon in the seventies, and they were also more commercial for the most part.


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thanks Gminer. So we can conclusively say that Elton John takes popularity, as shown by the chart success.


Over Led Zeppelin for the seventies, yes. But Zeppelin isn't far behind in popularity, and probably ahead in musical impact by about as much as Elton is in popularity. Influence, however, goes heavily to Led Zeppelin, probably by even more than Elton wins cultural impact. Sound right?


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That sounds about right to me.


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Clash arguing for Zeppelin? I like it. :cool:


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thanks Gminer. So we can conclusively say that Elton John takes popularity, as shown by the chart success.


Over Led Zeppelin for the seventies, yes. But Zeppelin isn't far behind in popularity, and probably ahead in musical impact by about as much as Elton is in popularity. Influence, however, goes heavily to Led Zeppelin, probably by even more than Elton wins cultural impact. Sound right?


Sounds good to me. And i enjoyed the pun.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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I had no idea Seger was so popular. Surprising to see Pink Floyd that low too.


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Doctor_Pik_Jr wrote:
I had no idea Seger was so popular. Surprising to see Pink Floyd that low too.


James Brown and Queen aren't in the top twenty at all. Neither are David Bowie, Aretha Franklin, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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how are you allowing chart success to be equal to popularity....granted Elton had a lot of hit singles, but the most his albums sold in the USA was 7X platinum , which was GYBR , while Zeppelin to my knowledge have 3 Diamond albums in the 70s.....Elton released a lot more albums and a TON more singles, what Zeppelin did with just a few albums is far more impressive IMO.....

Also , Im surprised to see Bowie as low as 13 here....

I also think Queen should be switched with The Who....


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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How do you suggest measuring popularity then? Chart success and album sales reflect popularity and that's what we've been using.


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Yousha wrote:
how are you allowing chart success to be equal to popularity....granted Elton had a lot of hit singles, but the most his albums sold in the USA was 7X platinum , which was GYBR , while Zeppelin to my knowledge have 3 Diamond albums in the 70s.....Elton released a lot more albums and a TON more singles, what Zeppelin did with just a few albums is far more impressive IMO.....


Maybe that's why it's called "Commercial Impact" instead of popularity.

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I also think Queen should be switched with The Who....


This seems like an easy call, to me.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Zeppelin had all their albums either at 1 or 2 except for the debut which was 9 ..... should they be penalized cause they were not really a singles artist or released a zillion albums ?

and if you bring in album sales, Elton doesnt touch Zeppelin ....

and yeah Clash , what i said....


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Yousha wrote:
Zeppelin had all their albums either at 1 or 2 except for the debut which was 9 ..... should they be penalized cause they were not really a singles artist or released a zillion albums ?

and if you bring in album sales, Elton doesnt touch Zeppelin ....


According to the RIAA, perhaps, but RIAA certifications are problematic. Much of that data is incomplete and the RIAA doesn't even bother with certifications unless a record label asks for it. The charts are a much more complete set of data, so that's what we use. By that data, Elton John and Led Zeppelin are very close in albums for the seventies, while Elton John trounces Led Zeppelin on the singles chart.


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