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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:36 am 
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What makes Manowar a greater power metal band than Blind Guardian?


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:22 am 
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That's what I thought, aside from early Manowar their mid and late stuff hasn't been too influencial, whereas Blind Guardian have been pretty influencial both in their earlier speed/power and later more epic, orchestral power metal days. Not to mention popular as fuck.
brc seems to be the official Manowar spokesperson on this board so I'd like to hear his opinion on the matter.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:45 am 
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Excluding certain songs, I don't really consider Manowar much of a power metal band (counting only their first six or so albums), so I won't oppose it.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:51 pm 
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Maddolis wrote:
That's what I thought, aside from early Manowar their mid and late stuff hasn't been too influencial, whereas Blind Guardian have been pretty influencial both in their earlier speed/power and later more epic, orchestral power metal days. Not to mention popular as fuck.


Popular where and compared to whom?


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:43 am 
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I thought the comparison was to Manowar...

Blind Guardian
1998 Nightfall in Middle-Eath Germany #7
2002 A Night at the Opera Ger #5
2006 A Twist in the Myth Ger #4
2010 At the Edge of Time Ger #2

Manowar
1992 The Triumph of Steel Ger #8
1996 Louder Than Hell Ger #7
2002 Warriors of the World Ger #2
2007 Gods of War Ger #2


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:29 am 
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Out of those, only Nightfall is an important power metal album.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:21 am 
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Aye, and that's including all of the said Manowar albums too.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:40 pm 
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That's what I meant, actually.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:15 am 
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Yes I had a few drinks and was merely agreeing.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:49 am 
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I thought your point was that they were not only more influential, but that they were also more popular...


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:39 am 
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I know last.fm can't be used as an accurate measure since it only accounts for internet fans, but it can still help give some idea about popularity:-

Manowar: 437,780 listeners
Blind Guardian: 475,600 listeners

Besides, Maddy only said that Blind Guardian were extremely popular, not "more popular than Manowar". Not that it matters, since Blind Guardian beat Manowar in influence anyway. Manowar are more important to metal as a whole (even influencing Bathory), but BG are more important to power metal.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
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The thing is both bands are incredibly popular outside of your typical Euro countries (Scandinavia, Germany, Netherlands, UK etc) and USA, but yes my main point was that BG are more important to power metal. Neither band have been straight-forward power metal their whole career but BG come closer.


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 Post subject: Re: 50 Greatest Power Metal Artists
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:52 pm 
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Okay why is Nightwish below both Rhapsody and Sonata Arctica? They've had ridiculous popularity and critical acclaim recently. Also can I suggest Dragonland, Allen/Lande, Dark Moor, and Fairyland for the list?


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