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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:08 pm 
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fearoftrains wrote:
It's hard to really look at animation from an international perspective and rank Western cartoons against anime. Might be better to just have two separate lists. If not, Evangelion is certainly top 15ish material (at least).

Avatar needs to move way waaaaaaaaaaay up. At this point it's basically the most acclaimed dramatic animated series to come out of the US, maybe second only to Batman.



I'd probably have to agree. Avatar could probably be Top 30.

And for Evangelion, its popularity isn't limited to Japan. It has worldwide acclaim and popularity and probably one of the biggest cult followings out of any series ever, animated or live-action.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:44 pm 
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Wacky Races looks too low.

And I still think Tom & Jerry should be top 5 ahead of the Flinstones. It's popularity and acclaim surely outweigh the Flinstones, hasn't it won a record number of grammies for animation or something?


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:08 am 
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Avery_Island wrote:
Wacky Races looks too low.

And I still think Tom & Jerry should be top 5 ahead of the Flinstones. It's popularity and acclaim surely outweigh the Flinstones, hasn't it won a record number of grammies for animation or something?


Agreed with Wacky Races, I remember bringing that up on the old board.

And Tom and Jerry already is top 5 ahead of The Flinstones.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:21 am 
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Oomenic wrote:
Avery_Island wrote:
Wacky Races looks too low.

And I still think Tom & Jerry should be top 5 ahead of the Flinstones. It's popularity and acclaim surely outweigh the Flinstones, hasn't it won a record number of grammies for animation or something?


Agreed with Wacky Races, I remember bringing that up on the old board.

And Tom and Jerry already is top 5 ahead of The Flinstones.


I know, but others were suggesting Flinstones should be top 5 ahead of T&J.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:23 am 
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Yeah Tom and Jerry should be above The Flintstones for sure. That said, acclaim isn't the only factor here, and The Flintstones are pretty important. For over a decade many cartoons were basically just lightly animated radio plays, and The Flintstones are probably the best representatives of that style of cartooning.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
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Avery_Island wrote:
Oomenic wrote:
Avery_Island wrote:
Wacky Races looks too low.

And I still think Tom & Jerry should be top 5 ahead of the Flinstones. It's popularity and acclaim surely outweigh the Flinstones, hasn't it won a record number of grammies for animation or something?


Agreed with Wacky Races, I remember bringing that up on the old board.

And Tom and Jerry already is top 5 ahead of The Flinstones.


I know, but others were suggesting Flinstones should be top 5 ahead of T&J.


o i c. Nah, absolutely not. The top 4 is pretty much a lock, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:02 am 
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Duck Tales should be higher.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:19 pm 
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My suggestions:


Add Neon Genesis Evangelion, probably in the Top 30. It has insane popularity, influence, and cultural impact outside of Japan, and is pretty much a worldwide phenomenon (unlike Doraemon, which is #52).

Move Avatar: The Last Airbender up a lot. Like Top 30 at least. As mentioned previously, it's one of the most critically-acclaimed animated series of all time.

Move up The Boondocks. It has a massive cult following and popularity.

Move Invader Zim WAY up.

Combine all the Looney Tunes entires into just one "Looney Tunes" entry, since they were pretty much all done by the same company and same voice actors as part of essentially the same series. There's no reason for Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd, Porky Pig, Foghorn Leghorn, Pepé le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, Taz, Sylvester & Tweety, and Wile E. Coyote & Roadrunner to fill 10 spots (and a tenth of the Top 100) instead of just one "Looney Tunes" one. Ditto for the Disney ones, with possibly Silly Symphonies as its own entry since it was pretty much separate.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:44 am 
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beaverteeth92,

All good suggestions. Every cartoon you mentioned will certainly be moving up (among others), and, yes, Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies will be counted as a single entry -- and should undoubtedly be #1. I'll combine the Disney characters, too. And good point: once the separate LT and Disney entries are eliminated, there will be room in the Top 100 for other great, deserving cartoons.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
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Maddolis wrote:
I absolutely adore Foghorn Leghorn.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:27 pm 
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Since I brought it up in the Cult Television list thread, how about placement for "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures"? It didn't last very long, but it has influence and importance in the field of animation independent from the original "Mighty Mouse" cartoons because of its innovation and the people who worked on it, among other things.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
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10. Beavis and Butt-head :metal:


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:01 pm 
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Not that anything is set in stone, but this is what the Top 100 is starting to look like since I've gone through it again. I'm sure several of the Eastern World cartoons are in not-so-accurate spots -- and I may be missing some important ones, altogether -- but here's a little progress towards a better list. I'm open to any feedback. Thanks.


1. Looney Tunes / Merrie Melodies
2. Golden Age Disney
3. The Simpsons
4. Tom and Jerry
5. The Flintstones
6. South Park
7. Popeye
8. SpongeBob SquarePants
9. Rocky and Bullwinkle
10. Family Guy
11. Peanuts
12. The Ren and Stimpy Show
13. Beavis and Butt-head
14. Scooby-Doo
15. Batman: The Animated Series
16. Dragonball Z
17. Animaniacs
18. King of the Hill
19. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
20. Gumby
21. Yogi Bear
22. Rugrats
23. The Jetsons
24. Pokémon
25. Transformers
26. Futurama
27. The Pink Panther
28. Doug
29. Inspector Gadget
30. Superman: The Animated Series
31. Wallace and Gromit
32. Alvin and the Chipmunks
33. G.I. Joe
34. The Smurfs
35. Woody Woodpecker
36. Johnny Quest
37. The Powerpuff Girls
38. Spider-Man
39. DuckTales
40. SuperFriends
41. X-men
42. Droopy
43. Speed Racer
44. Tiny Toon Adventures
45. Aqua Teen Hunger Force
46. Felix the Cat
47. Schoolhouse Rock!
48. Rocko's Modern Life
49. Avatar: The Last Airbender
50. Dora the Explorer
51. ThunderCats
52. Betty Boop
53. Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids
54. Astro Boy
55. Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
56. Dexter's Laboratory
57. Cowboy Bebop
58. Mighty Mouse
59. Huckleberry Hound
60. Doraemon
61. Arthur
62. He-man and the Masters of the Universe
63. Robot Chicken
64. Underdog
65. Tom Terrific
66. Gargoyles
67. Hey Arnold!
68. Casper the Friendly Ghost
69. Voltron
70. Pinky and the Brain
71. Sailor Moon
72. Mr. Magoo
73. Danger Mouse
74. Recess
75. Celebrity Deathmatch
76. Babar
77. The Venture Bros.
78. Muppet Babies
79. Gerald McBoing-Boing
80. Daria
81. Wacky Races
82. Chip N' Dale: Rescue Rangers
83. Freakazoid!
84. Neon Genesis Evangelion
85. Dungeons and Dragons
86. George of the Jungle
87. Care Bears
88. Top Cat
89. Samurai Jack
90. Josie and the Pussycats
91. The Critic
92. Johnny Bravo
93. Mobile Suit Gundam
94. Heithcliff
95. TailSpin
96. Garfield and Friends
97. Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
98. The Tick
99. Sabrina the Teenage Witch
100. The Boondocks


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
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Looks good, except I have a few critiques.

Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop should be switched, as Evangelion has the much larger cult following and overall influence on the mecha genre.

The Boondocks should be WAY higher. I'd probably put the series at 46.

Why is Betty Boop so low?


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Cartoons
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:18 am 
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Are Spongebob and Family Guy really both Top 10 material?


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