Lombardo performances in Slayer, please take a listen CRJ:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRV1Zgjmikshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axc6VSaq ... re=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FSzuTB ... re=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvpaK8aDJOYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvpaK8aDJOYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nn3Uibn3TM
None of these are fast songs except for Temptation and Silent Scream. Lombardo isn't this one dimensional speedy double bass guy, he's an extraordinarily creative, dynamic, special drummer with untouchable groove compared to other metal drummers (and most other drummers period), a completely unique style and a ton of musicality.
I repeat, versatility...instrumental hip hop, thrash, avant garde heavy (Fantomas), whatever Grip Inc is, improv-to-fucking-Vivaldi. Apocalyptica.
Originality? Compare the playing in these songs I've linked to what Ulrich was doing at the same time. Lombardo was the first drummer to hit thrash who was a truly exceptional, one-of-a-kind musician. He set the standard.
Again, not slow songs. Slower than their usual output, but that doesn't show much versatility in itself. I also find that last sentence hard to believe, seeing as the only people who would be able to notice anything other than his speed would be drummers. I stand by exactly what I said in the last post.
Hell no, only drummers with a trained ear would notice double bass speed in and of itself, and given how widespread crazy double bass is today, if that's what he were famous for he'd be a footnote in drumming history now 'that guy who made double bass modern'. No, thrash listeners in general go on about his style, his creativity and originality. He sounds like no one else. A non drummer would notice astounding drumming, that's why so many non musicians love Bonham and Peart so much and Moon.
Lombardo ties Aldridge in influence, beats him in skill, and beats him in versatility, also creativity. I stand by all that.
Lombardo ties Carey in creativity, ties him in versatility, doesn't lose in skill by THAT much, beats him in influence and in innovation.
Negative Creep wrote:
There really wasn't anyone before Aldridge who sounded like him per se, while you had tons of drummers doing the 'fast thrashy' style before Lombardo (Les Binks, Simon Phillips, Rat Skates, and of course Lars).
Then you're missing my whole point. My point is that Lombardo was NOT just a 'fast thrashy' drummer and didn't sound anything like Lars or Les Binks aside from the basic format of his playing, in which case you could say Moon sounded like Ringo (similar basic format) and you could easily say Portnoy sounds like Peart. Lombardo took that basic fast thrashy punk influenced style and added so much to it it became its own unique art form and take on speedy metal.
Put differently listen to Lars' exceptional but one dimensional playing on And Justice For All (album) and then listen to Lombardo on South of Heaven (album), released the same year. One of those two drummers is basic (if outstanding) fast/thrashy, the other is an exceptionally talented and unique musician. The difference is very stark.