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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:44 am 
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Who do you think he beats by the criteria?


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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McBrain deserves between 29-35 definitely, where he falls in that hasn't been determined yet. I will ask this again: Are we all okay with the current top 25? From that we can move on


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Seems fine to me, boss.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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It's alright to me. I'd like to see Appice over Palmer... that's about it.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Earl or Carl?


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Earl obviously. We really just gave earl influence, innovation, and originality we tied (or something). But the innovation and influence wins gave him an edge. Feel free to switch them if you feel it is really correct by the criteria


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Who do you think he beats by the criteria?


I would say Collins, and Taylor. He's much more of a technical drummer then both of them. He's influential to metal drummers, Also creative in his own way. I don't know about him against Portnoy though, that would be somewhat even.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Rock N Herbs, what do you think about Taylor's video I posted here?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=162&start=1185

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=162&start=1215


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It's alright, but not better than what I have seen with Nicko.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCJRciBZRQ

Mike trying Bill. "Hells Bells" (second song here).

Thoughts? I'm genuinely curious.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Well I cant compare, having never heard the Bruford original.
But I thought that was pretty sweet.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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though not as good as the original track, direct comparison of live playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VypHKKaP6yk
Portnoy was not bad at all, the track was simplified significantly (he cut out half the ride pattern) but it's okay, because Portnoy did not over play and didn't even play in his style, which was wonderful to hear. He complemented the song well and it sounded fine to me. Nothing flashy about it, which was great. Bruford's is still more complex definitely.


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Okay sorry guys been a bit busy lately. K well we should start looking at the next 10. I don't know a lot about Zigaboo so if we have someone who knows about him here that'd be great, of course I still plan to do research. So right now question is Al Jackson, Zigaboo, Alexander, Beauford, Portnoy, Harrison. I think they are up next on the list, then followed by McBrain, Taylor and Collins. So how do we want to order them? I don't know enough about zigaboo but I'd assume him, Jackson, and Alexander lead the herd, probably in this order:

Alexander > Jackson > Zigaboo?

Mainly because Alexander's originality, creativity, and skill beat Jackson, who takes influence and innovation. Then question comes down to stylistic versatility, which I'm leaning on Alexander. Opinions?


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 Post subject: Re: 150 Greatest Rock Drummers
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Rock N Herbs wrote:
Negative Creep wrote:
Who do you think he beats by the criteria?


I would say Collins, and Taylor. He's much more of a technical drummer then both of them. He's influential to metal drummers, also creative in his own way. I don't know about him against Portnoy though, that would be somewhat even.


I think you're underrating Collins' technical talent...
In Collins' defense (Sorry if I pull an Echoes here...), here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK1K6cP2Gd0#t=2m35s
From then until 5:12 (Sorry about the graphic images in the vid) is some of the best drumming I've ever heard. And you're telling me even though Phil's off there jamming in 9/8, he's not a technical drummer? You have to remember, before he was the singer for Genesis (A basically ruined their good reputation with their pop phase), Collins was an excellent and very influential drummer (And he still is very influential to drummers nowadays).


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