DDD Home Page
DDD Music Lists Page
DDD Movie Lists Page
It is currently Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:30 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 240 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 16  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 am
Posts: 7519
Location: New Jersey
StuBass wrote:
Sorry, but here's MORE documentation regarding Moores participation with Johnny Burnette and the Trio. Grady Martin states on his website that Moore played absolutely FOR SURE on Johnny Burnettes sessions on July 4, 1956 and March 22, 1957. In addition, another session was scheduled for July 5, 1956...but Moore had a prior commitment for a television gig at CBS, and even though the session would have paid twice as much, Moore fulfilled his commitment to CBS.


Where's the link to that site?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 am
Posts: 7519
Location: New Jersey
Bruce wrote:
StuBass wrote:
Sorry, but here's MORE documentation regarding Moores participation with Johnny Burnette and the Trio. Grady Martin states on his website that Moore played absolutely FOR SURE on Johnny Burnettes sessions on July 4, 1956 and March 22, 1957. In addition, another session was scheduled for July 5, 1956...but Moore had a prior commitment for a television gig at CBS, and even though the session would have paid twice as much, Moore fulfilled his commitment to CBS.


Where's the link to that site?


I just read it, so you're taking the word of Kittra Moore when no one involved is still alive to confirm any of it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:06 pm
Posts: 797
Bruce wrote:
StuBass wrote:
Sorry, but here's MORE documentation regarding Moores participation with Johnny Burnette and the Trio. Grady Martin states on his website that Moore played absolutely FOR SURE on Johnny Burnettes sessions on July 4, 1956 and March 22, 1957. In addition, another session was scheduled for July 5, 1956...but Moore had a prior commitment for a television gig at CBS, and even though the session would have paid twice as much, Moore fulfilled his commitment to CBS.


Boy, Grady has a great memory that he can recall specific events from 55 years ago, events that disagree with the session notes. I guess Dorsey just stood aside and let Moore play on July 4?


Moore, Martin, and Boots Randolph were known as the A-Team of Rockabilly session players OFTEN replacing regular band members on recording sessions...much like The Wrecking Crew did for so many bands iin L.A., since they were so accomplished. My research is starting to indicate that Moore may actually have played on nearly as much or more R&R Trio stuff as Dorsey. Google Johnny Burnette and Bob Moore and there's a plethora of data confirming this. It' starting to appear as though while Dorsey and Paul were in Johnnys touring ensemble, Grady and Moore were his session musicians of choice, which is pretty much what I figured.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 am
Posts: 7519
Location: New Jersey
StuBass wrote:
Bruce wrote:
StuBass wrote:
Sorry, but here's MORE documentation regarding Moores participation with Johnny Burnette and the Trio. Grady Martin states on his website that Moore played absolutely FOR SURE on Johnny Burnettes sessions on July 4, 1956 and March 22, 1957. In addition, another session was scheduled for July 5, 1956...but Moore had a prior commitment for a television gig at CBS, and even though the session would have paid twice as much, Moore fulfilled his commitment to CBS.


Boy, Grady has a great memory that he can recall specific events from 55 years ago, events that disagree with the session notes. I guess Dorsey just stood aside and let Moore play on July 4?


Moore, Martin, and Boots Randolph were known as the A-Team of Rockabilly session players OFTEN replacing regular band members on recording sessions...much like The Wrecking Crew did for so many bands iin L.A., since they were so accomplished. My research is starting to indicate that Moore may have actually have played on nearly as much R&R Trio stuff as Dorsry. Google Johnny Burnette and Bob Moore and there's a plethora of data confirming this. It' starting tl appear as though while Dorsey and Paul were in Johnnys touring ensemble, Grady and Moore were his session musicians of choice, which is pretty much what I figured.


Even if we assume that Martin played on EVERY Trio record, that's still two years after Bill Black created that style of playing rockabilly bass. Black was the innovator, Moore was the great technician who could play anything after someone else created it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 am
Posts: 7519
Location: New Jersey
StuBass wrote:
It' starting to appear as though while Dorsey and Paul were in Johnnys touring ensemble, Grady and Moore were his session musicians of choice, which is pretty much what I figured.


Johnny wasn't making the decisions as to who played on the records, that was being done by the label and the producers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:06 pm
Posts: 797
Bruce wrote:
StuBass wrote:
It' starting to appear as though while Dorsey and Paul were in Johnnys touring ensemble, Grady and Moore were his session musicians of choice, which is pretty much what I figured.


Johnny wasn't making the decisions as to who played on the records, that was being done by the label and the producers.


And if I'm a country or rockabilly producer, and if what you are assuming is even true, then I'd definitely go for Moore over Dorsey to cut my tracks at that time.

As for Black...once again...I really like him. He DOES remind me a bit of Bootsy Collins in this respect. Both, in my opinion, were known as much for their stage antics as their instumental virtuosity.

Was Black the "innovator" though...or the guy who exposed a style due to the notoriety and attention he received as the early bass player for a worldwide phenomenon named Elvis Presley???


Last edited by StuBass on Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 am
Posts: 7519
Location: New Jersey
StuBass wrote:
And if I'm a country or rockabilly producer, and if what you are assuming is even true, then I'd definitely go for Moore over Dorsey to cut my tracks at that time.

As for Black...once again...I really like him. He DOES remind me a bit of Bootsy Collins in this respect. Both, in my opinion, were known as much for their stage antics as their instumental virtuosity.


Speaking of Moore, I know his son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Stevie_Moore

He used to manage a record store a few miles from my house. Looks like he finally moved back to Tennessee last year.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm
Posts: 14098
Interesting list.
I like Burton, but should Pulling Teeth really be THAT high? I mean, at least it's unique and original...but very polarizing for most people.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:47 am
Posts: 8422
Location: in a pungent rose petal
updated 7 years ago


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm
Posts: 14098
:lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:07 pm 
Offline
moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:19 am
Posts: 1408
Negative Creep wrote:
Interesting list.
I like Burton, but should Pulling Teeth really be THAT high? I mean, at least it's unique and original...but very polarizing for most people.


Another list I'll worry about more seriously once we've fixed up the main list. I do think Pulling Teeth is a top 10 lock tho. If I were to make a top 10 greatest rock performances list myself, it'd be, in some order, something like: YYZ, Close to the Edge, Heart of the Sunrise, Tommy the Cat, Around the World, Something, What's Going On, Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth), Crossroads live, The Lemon Song (I think Squire actually deserves two performances in the top 10, yeah)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:29 am 
Offline
moderator

Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:05 am
Posts: 1922
So are you in the group that also thinks Sound Chaser is not Squire's best?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:53 pm 
Offline
moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:19 am
Posts: 1408
I don't think it's near his best, frankly. Close to the Edge, America, Siberian Khatru, Long Distance Runaround, Roundabout, South Side of the Sky, Heart of the Sunrise...those are his peak performances imo. Sound Chaser is slightly below that in my book, but his work remained outstanding thru at least Going for the One in 1977, he didn't lose a beat until, at the earliest, the late 70s (and more likely the early 80s with the introduction of pop Yes).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:35 am 
Offline
moderator

Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:05 am
Posts: 1922
Ariel wrote:
I don't think it's near his best, frankly. Close to the Edge, America, Siberian Khatru, Long Distance Runaround, Roundabout, South Side of the Sky, Heart of the Sunrise...those are his peak performances imo. Sound Chaser is slightly below that in my book, but his work remained outstanding thru at least Going for the One in 1977, he didn't lose a beat until, at the earliest, the late 70s (and more likely the early 80s with the introduction of pop Yes).


I completely agree, I had no idea why it was at number 7, I tried to figure that out forever. I still love Tempus Fugit though, but definitely not his best.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Performances
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm
Posts: 14098
While Peter Green is known as one of THE gods of blues-rock guitar, he also gets a nasty solo here on a 6-string bass.
Killer stuff, imo. Ariel?



Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 240 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 ... 16  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:

DigitalDreamDoor.com   

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

DigitalDreamDoor Forum is one part of a music and movie list website whose owner has given its visitors
the privilege to discuss music and movies, and has no control and cannot in any way be held liable over
how, or by whom this board is used. If you read or see anything inappropriate that has been posted,
contact webmaster@digitaldreamdoor.com. Comments in the forum are reviewed before list updates.
Topics include rock music, metal, rap, hip-hop, blues, jazz, songs, albums, guitar, drums, musicians...


DDD Home Page | DDD Music Lists Page | DDD Movie Lists Page