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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Glad to see a lot of activity here. I'll get more caught up tomorrow hopefully but for now strongly thinking

18. Jack Casady/Phil Lesh
19. Jack Casady/Phil Lesh
20. Cliff Burton
21. Stu Hamm
22. Steve Harris
23. John Deacon

I know I already posted this, but I'm really becoming more and more definite in my opinion this is how it should go. No idea who wins between Casady & Lesh though and unless people want to post some epic performances by both I'll have to leave those two tied for the time being.

Burton vs Hamm:
Influence Burton
Innovation Burton
Creativity Burton
Versatility Hamm?
Skill Hamm

Pretty cut and dry IMO.

Hamm vs Harris
Influence Harris lol
Innovation Harris
Creativity Harris (not by that much)
Versatility Hamm haha
Skill Hamm

Bleh, Harris probably will take Hamm. Actually that makes a lot of sense now that I think of it.

Hamm (now demoted) vs Deacon
Influence Deacon by a bit
Innovation ? Deacon by a bit I guess
Creativity Deacon
Versatility unsure I'll say Hamm for now
Skill Hamm easily

Deacon might jump Hamm too actually. Yay criteria breakdowns! (Still need to take intangibles into account though, criteria alone doesn't determine spots so this is all very tentative!)

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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Oh btw out of the next crop of players I have a hunch Barrett deserves #24


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Ariel did you check out the Iron Butterfly links on the previous page? Dorman is a hell of a player.

I don't really know enough about Hamm to comment on him, but Harris was simply one of a kind. His tone, style, and feel are all his own. Nobody sounds like Steve, and I don't think anyone ever will. Personally I think he even takes Geezer for the title of greatest metal bassist.
Not that it matters for this particular list, but I felt I had to just throw it out there.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Not yet. Agree Harris is one of a kind, hence why I rate him above Stu in creativity. Glad you 'get' him.

Anyone here very familiar with Bob Marley/Barrett's bass playing? Any Deadheads 'round? Cheers

Oh and Hamm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6LrVQwtcpI


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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It's really difficult to objectively judge Aston Barrett as a bassist since there's so few other well known Reggae bassists to compare him to. Barrett did set the tone for that style, but Reggae is often quite repetitive in nature, although the timing in that music form can be quite challenging...unless that's all you play, which seems to be the case with Barrett. When I was in Jamaica last year I caught a few reggae bands and the bass parts, once you get past the odd rhythm structures, all seemed relatively simple and supportive. Obviously, Barrett lacks versatility, and I'd have to say that he's probably the second best Jamaican bassist...behind Phil Chen.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Ariel wrote:


That was just epic.
I'm actually not so sure that Harris is more creative, after watching that.
This guy has an amazing melodic sense on the instrument.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Negative Creep wrote:
Ariel wrote:


That was just epic.
I'm actually not so sure that Harris is more creative, after watching that.
This guy has an amazing melodic sense on the instrument.


I agree. There's no doubt in my mind that Hamm is more creative than Harris.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Quite possibly my favourite bass solo. Hell, that whole DVD is Satch at his very best, superbly listenable guitar music that non-musicians will dig.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T7WGasjju0
Proof that Thomas Miller is a fantastic bassist.


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Oh, the proof is all over Symphony X's early albums.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQKO3Sea3bs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z454yP-XkwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4nFIHDlihE


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Location: Matthew McConaughey has won the Oscar for Best Actor in-- "You think you know me..." Shit.
I love his bassline in "The Accolade"


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Ssoyd wrote:
Negative Creep wrote:
Ariel wrote:


That was just epic.
I'm actually not so sure that Harris is more creative, after watching that.
This guy has an amazing melodic sense on the instrument.


I agree. There's no doubt in my mind that Hamm is more creative than Harris.


Yeah, I'm not sure about the other areas of the criteria though.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Negative Creep wrote:
Ssoyd wrote:

I agree. There's no doubt in my mind that Hamm is more creative than Harris.


Yeah, I'm not sure about the other areas of the criteria though.


Me either. Some of the criteria are a bit difficult to determine unless there is an obvious difference. Influence for example. I'm sure that Harris has influence over a greater number of players due to playing in a well known band but I suspect Hamm may have more influence over the best "virtuoso" bass players.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Stu/Ssoyd,
I'd like to know what you think of this...



Two marvelous bass solos, some beautiful and dreamy guitar melodies, and some tight jazz playing at the end.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Bass Guitarists
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Tasty stuff. I like those Ray Brown style walking runs near the end.


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