it says West vs Big O, not Dr. J vs Big O
anyway, i dont believe Oscar should be above anyone in the top 10. his career just doesnt match theirs. how my top 12 breaks down:
Jordan: 6 titles, 5 MVPs, 6 finals appearances, 14 All-Star selections
Russell: 11 titles, 5 MVPs, 11 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
Kareem: 6 titles, 6 MVPs, 10 finals appearances, 19 All-Star selections
Magic: 5 titles, 3 MVPs, 9 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
Bird: 3 titles, 3 MVPs, 5 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
Wilt: 2 titles, 4 MVPs, 6 finals appearances, 13 All-Star selections
Duncan: 4 titles, 2 MVPs, 4 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
Shaq: 4 titles, 1 MVP, 6 finals appearances, 15 All-Star selections
Kobe: 5 titles, 1 MVP, 7 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
Dream: 2 titles, 1 MVP, 3 finals appearances, 12 All-Star selections
West: 1 title, 0 MVPs, 9 finals appearances, 14 All-Star selections
Oscar: 1 title, 1 MVP, 1 finals appearance, 12 All-Star selections
his 1 title was in the winter years of his career with a young Kareem leading his team. his stats are inflated by the higher pace of play during that time.
and you can argue that he didnt have a quality team or whatever. but we arent talking about 1 finals appearance vs 2 or 3. in most cases, these guys dominated their leagues for anywhere from 4-11 years. the closest case could be made that he should be above Dream and West. but thats it. how can you look at the careers of Shaq or Kobe and determine that he should be above them?
To me putting Duncan ahead of Robertson is kind of funny. Sure he has more MVP's and sure he has more trophies, but don't players get MVP awards and championships because they have great teammates? Yes, they do. Duncan has never been as dominant as The Big O and The Big O has certainly made a larger impact on the sport. He was Jordan before Jordan. Duncan, in my eyes, was always consistently great, but never consistently dominant.
As for The Big O vs. West, well that one is easy:
The Big O has just as many championships (1) as West and won an MVP (West never won one and never deserved one). Even when The Big O was with Milwaukee those teams were never as good as West's Laker teams.
Oscar Robertson: 25.7 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 9.5 APG, .485 FG%
Jerry West: 27.0 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 6.7 APG, .474 FG%
Robertson was a better shooter, rebounder and passer
West was a better scorer and defender.
However, let's not forget that when Robertson went to the Bucks his scoring went down in order to groom Kareem into the player he would become.
Question: Is championships the most important criteria???