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Dreams
Sunshine Through the Rain 40%  40%  [ 2 ]
The Peach Orchard 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Blizzard 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Tunnel 20%  20%  [ 1 ]
Crows 40%  40%  [ 2 ]
Mount Fuji in Red 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
The Weeping Demon 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Village of the Watermills 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:46 am 
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my preference order:

1 Crows
2 The Peach Orchard
3 Sunshine Through the Rain
4 Village of the Watermills
5 Mount Fuji in Red
6 The Weeping Demon
7 The Tunnel
8 The Blizzard


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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I kind of feel bad because this is a really great idea for a thread but I don't have enough memory of Dreams to vote.


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:28 pm 
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i feel bad that i haven't even seen this yet and am surprised that batman created it


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:08 pm 
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Dreww wrote:
I kind of feel bad because this is a really great idea for a thread but I don't have enough memory of Dreams to vote.


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:11 pm 
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I just saw it yesterday at a friend's "movie night." I really loved it, it made me want to watch more Kurosawa. I'm ashamed to say I'm not a huge film nerd but I'm surrounded by them (irl and ddd) so I end up watching good ones anyway. But anyway, yeah pretty vain movie I guess. Just some nonsensical dreams that have a message, but whose dreams don't have a message anyway? Point is, it was possibly the best visual movie I've ever seen, which makes up for the lack of plot. Also, Vincent Van Gogh is played by Martin Scorcese in it. WTF!


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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maybe this will help jog people's memories. batman's tv guide-esque descriptions of scenes:

Sunshine Through the Rain
the one that ends with the little boy under the rainbow

The Peach Orchard
the trees dance and sing for the little boy

The Blizzard
hikers hike through a blizzard

The Tunnel
a dead soldier is convinced he isn't dead

Crows
Kurosawa travels through Van Gogh paintings and meets Van Gogh himself

Mount Fuji in Red
Mt Fuji erupts and there's a toxic gas in the air

The Weeping Demon
a weird beastly man shows Kurosawa how other beasts live

Village of the Watermills
an old man in a peaceful village tells Kurosawa how to live naturally


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:45 pm 
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batman wrote:
I just saw it yesterday at a friend's "movie night." I really loved it, it made me want to watch more Kurosawa.
hey! this was the movie that made me fall in love with Kurosawa, too... but i have to say, as far as i know, it is a totally unique movie in his filmography, very unlike anything else he had done... but i'm glad you're interesting in seeing more, it's definitely worth your while.
for me, it's still favorite kurosawa movie along with "dersu uzala", "seven samurai", and "ikiru".

well, i saw the movie four times, i think, and my preference for favorite dreams has changed over time. the first time i saw it, "crows" and "village of the watermills" resonated with me the most. but now my favorites are the first two: "sunshine through the rain" and "the peach orchard".
i'd always thought "the weeping demon" and especially "mount fuji in red" are total failures. the rest i do like, to varying degrees. of the four times i watched it, i've had maybe the most interesting experience with "the blizzard", because when i wasn't in the mood, it seemed to go on forever, but the one time i was into it, it was quite an experience, because you get into that mindset and kind of live through their agony with them, and also end up tempted by that japanese valkyrie (i don't really know what she's called).
"the tunnel" is a very touching meditation on the horrors of war... to me it's about the captain's feeling of guilt, and it seems like kurosawa is criticizing the powers for the atrocities and lets the soldiers off the hook as the naive ones. well, at least that's how his subconscious views it, it would seem.

anyway, my list would be something like this...

1. sunshine through the rain
2. the peach orchard
3. crows
4. village of the watermills
5. the blizzard
6. the tunnel
7. the weeping demon
8. mount fuji in red


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:31 pm 
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our top fours are really similar George.


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:36 pm 
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It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I remember "Crows" and "The Tunnel" sticking out the most in my mind. Still not gonna vote until I see it again.


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:39 am 
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I was thinking another good poll would be J Dilla's "Donuts" vs Kurosawa's "Dreams."


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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Sunshine THrough The Rain
The Peach Orchard/Village Of The Watermills
The Tunnel
Crows
The Blizzard
Mt. Fuji In Red
The Weeping Demon


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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Wow, how did I miss this thread for the last year. Don't know if anyone's interested at this point, but I don't care

1. Crows
2. The Peach Orchard

3. Sunshine Through Rain
4. Village of Watermills

5. The Blizzard
6. The Tunnel
7. The Weeping Demon



8. Mt. Fuji in Red


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:01 am 
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Man I haven't seen Dreams for five or six years now!

From what I can remember I disliked The Blizzard and Mt. Fuji in Red. All the rest was amazing!


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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I found The Tunnel to be really tedious and heavyhanded the way the subsequent two are. Agree with George though, Mt Fuji is just awful.


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 Post subject: Re: favorite dream Kurasowa dreamed
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batman wrote:
but whose dreams don't have a message anyway?

Van Veen wrote:
Now the mistake—the lewd, ludicrous and vulgar mistake of the Signy-Mondieu analysts consists in their regarding a real object, a pompom, say, or a pumpkin (actually seen in a dream by the patient) as a significant abstraction of the real object, as a bumpkin's bonbon or one-half of the bust if you see what I mean (scattered giggles). There can be no emblem or parable in a village idiot's hallucinations or in last night's dream of any of us in this hall. In those random visions nothing—underscore "nothing" (grating sound of horizontal strokes)—can be construed as allowing itself to be deciphered by a witch doctor who can then cure a madman or give comfort to a killer by laying the blame on a too fond, too fiendish or too indifferent parent—secret festerings that the foster quack feigns to heal by expensive confession fests (laughter and applause).


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