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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:56 pm 
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What the hell? This show is awful.


American Dad > The Grateful Dead.

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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:21 pm 
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I just think Family Guy is a mediocre cartoon undeserving of it's incredible popularity.

There are funny moments but also a good deal of gags that make me absolutely cringe. Even when South Park tries to be as offensive as possible it works purely out of execution. Thing is I can think of many South Park and Simpsons episodes that I enjoy all the way through and even the better Family Guy episodes tend to be plagued by some pretty lame gags. Save the consistantly good early seasons.

Maybe that's the appeal of it, it's just a full on assault of gags, attempting every kind of humor possible. But then again South Park and The Simpsons are very diverse in their humor and are much more successful at it.

I find that Family Guy just has too many things that don't work. Even the really funny moments end up getting so popular with the writers that they use them over and over again until they stop being funny. All the characters have become increasingly one joke characters, they have become increasingly malicious and unlikable and have broken out of character so much that they cease to be real characters.

And too many jokes are merely insults of celebrities, and for way more shallow reasons than why South Park goes after celebrities. It's like "haha Ted Danson has a big forehead". And it's not really good at shock value humor like South Park is. As it's mostly just repulsive and not funny at all.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:30 am 
South Park beats the shit out of Family Guy and when South Park gets offensive, they do it in a clever and funny way. Family Guy TRIES to be edgy and offensive but almost always comes off in a bad way like when they did that horrible and stupid musical about Terri Schiavo. South Park did an episode about it but they brought up the issue, should they pull the plug or not? and why? Family Guy just basically made fun of her and used her to make a musical moment in their episode. The Family Guy writers are not clever at all. Terri's parents were disgusted by the episode and said nothing about the South Park episode because Trey and Matt know how to do comedy.

Peter, Stewie, Lois and Quagmire are probally the only reasons Family Guy is so popular. For me Family Guy has too many flaws to be ranked so high on the greatest cartoons list. Family Guy should never and will never pass up South Park even if it goes for 20 or 30 seasons.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:46 pm 
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I like family guy


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:47 pm 
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Meh, I still think you guys are over-analyzing. Granted, some of the FG episodes were just downright stupid (Bird Is The Word, plus the Conway Twitty scenes, etc.), but I think there are much more GOOD episodes than bad. Much more.
Anyway, does anyone remember that episode of the Simpsons where Bart and Milhouse actually.....join a fucking boy-band?!
If that's not lame, I dont know what is. :lol:

And I could get into South Park more if the voices werent so incredibly annoying (Cartman) and the attempt at shock humor wasnt so pitiful.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:13 pm 
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Nothing you ever say is right.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Shame.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:25 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:04 pm 
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I like Family Guy much more than South Park.

Sue me.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:29 pm 
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Personal faves:
The Simpsons > Family Guy > Beavis & Butt-Head > Ren & Stimpy > American Dad > South Park

Order of "greatness":
The Simpsons > Beavis & Butt-Head > Ren & Stimpy > South Park > Family Guy > American Dad

*Awaits long boring post from someone about South Park being the greatest*


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:28 pm 
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Also, AbeVV loves American Dad.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:59 pm 
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No, booboo hit it right on the head when it comes to Family Guy, and American Dad is just a derivative of that show. And it isn't "overanalyzing", it's getting bored of the same old gags that happen episode after episode and realizing that a lot of those gags weren't very clever, well thought out, or original in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:54 pm 
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Yeah, if you did some kind of study, you'd find that at least 90% of the jokes in Family Guy are references, wether pop culture references or self references, or vicious insults of celebrities who are way more talented than the writers who came up with them. I think it over relies on that stuff for gags way too often.

And most of the pop culture "references" are usually straight up imitations of famous scenes and often we're supposed to accept them as the actual joke, even when no real jokes are present, and it's almost always something from some 70s or 80s tv show or movie or pop song, with the exception of the song and dance numbers ripped from a famous musical. It's that kind of hipster humor I find very irritating.

The Simpsons is full of pop culture gags, but they often consist of an actual joke rather than being references for the sake of reference, and they are not just references to some cheesy 80s tv show. And South Park's pop culture references are very clever and not always obvious, wether it's the cripple fight scene that paid homage to They Live or the Mecha Streisand episode which parodied Toho monster movies.

Family Guy could never come up with stuff like that.


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 Post subject: Re: American Dad
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:34 am 
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The more movies and television you watch, the more books you read, the more history you know always makes The Simpsons funnier and timeless. There is not one other show that has nailed references the way The Simpsons have and it's the same reason that it will be just as good in 10 years (another 10 years, that is). South Park comes pretty close for references, esepcially their whole episode references (Asspen, Stanley's Cup, basically the whole 6th season). Family Guy sees a reference, mimics the reference and doesn't really allow you to think about anything other than "hey, they just did that reference".


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