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 Post subject: Re: Game of Thrones
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:25 pm 
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The structure is very similar to the Wire in that it asks the viewer to follow and track the characters over time and so long as you have a reasonable ability to hold material in your head you shouldn't struggle to follow it.


Except if you look at The Wire on a single-episode basis each installment did have its own story with a beginning, middle and end, within a season that had its own beginning, middle and end. Game of Thrones had a couple episodes this year that were purely about moving the pieces around (episode 8 was one for sure, and really dragged as a result) and the season as a whole really felt like Part 1 of 2 in a way that last year didn't.

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Now that they're scattered it makes perfect sense and I think drawing in the focus even more would remove much of the shows strength.


You don't think Blackwater was the best episode of the season? I thought it was, by a wide margin, because it was so tightly focused.

that's because blackwater was the biggest event of the season and it would be less effective if it switched between different plotlines. a tight focus wouldn't've made sense for the rest of the episodes, or added to them.


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this show is so fucking slow i swear they'll still be screening new episodes in 10 years. in other related gags i just found out the wheel of time books are still going, some guy i went to school with started reading them like 15 years ago, still waiting for the last installment. hilarious


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I liked the second episode of the first season because it established Tyrion's character.


I liked it too it's just those were the weakest because they had to do so much establishing. I mean there hasn't been a bad episode yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Game of Thrones
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monga18 wrote:
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The structure is very similar to the Wire in that it asks the viewer to follow and track the characters over time and so long as you have a reasonable ability to hold material in your head you shouldn't struggle to follow it.


Except if you look at The Wire on a single-episode basis each installment did have its own story with a beginning, middle and end, within a season that had its own beginning, middle and end. Game of Thrones had a couple episodes this year that were purely about moving the pieces around (episode 8 was one for sure, and really dragged as a result) and the season as a whole really felt like Part 1 of 2 in a way that last year didn't.

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Now that they're scattered it makes perfect sense and I think drawing in the focus even more would remove much of the shows strength.


You don't think Blackwater was the best episode of the season? I thought it was, by a wide margin, because it was so tightly focused.


Well yes Blackwater was the best episode and part of that was the tight focus BUT it was also because it managed to plumb some of the strongest emotional depths of the show through what was going on.

I disagree with your characterization of Wire episodes. I think the episodes only have a beginning middle and end if you force such a structure onto them. Simon himself has said that while the Seasons do the episodes emphatically do not and are not intended to. There is definitely a tighter traditional story telling with each individual season for the Wire (something that makes a great deal of sense given each season has a different focus).

And I didn't think Episode 8 was just about moving set pieces at all (a criticism that could be somewhat fairly leveled at Episode 7). The scenes with Robb alone in 8 disprove that because those were crucial to his character development. Don't think the scenes with Tyrion stand to that criticism either. The only scenes I can think of that really do that are the ones with Dany.


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 Post subject: Re: Game of Thrones
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:15 am 
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this show is so fucking slow i swear they'll still be screening new episodes in 10 years. in other related gags i just found out the wheel of time books are still going, some guy i went to school with started reading them like 15 years ago, still waiting for the last installment. hilarious


Possible given the size of the books and material to cover and that the books aren't done. However, its slowness is a virtue.


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The first part of Stephen King's Dark Tower series was published in 1978, with the first complete book in 1982. The last one came out in 2003, with an additional in-between book coming out last year. Technically he started writing the story in 1970.


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My girlfriend got me the Game of Thrones unofficial cookbook, and a large map of the Westeros for 65 cents on Amazon :lol:


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However, its slowness is a virtue.


I can't stress enough how important this is.


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pink wrote:
My girlfriend got me the Game of Thrones unofficial cookbook, and a large map of the Westeros for 65 cents on Amazon :lol:

links? i want.


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lol I was going to get that poster too for my new place.


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yeah i bought one.

apparently he's releasing a big song of ice and fire information and map guide in october. it'll come with a detailed poster of the world, including all of the eastern parts you don't see much of until book 5. can't wait to pin this to my wall.


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However, its slowness is a virtue.


I can't stress enough how important this is.


I never felt this season like things were moving slowly. I just felt like it was part of a long, epic saga rather than a series of episodes as most TV shows are. I've never read the books, but I've envisioned some of my favorite book series as being presented on TV in something like this way.

If this show is still going ten years from now, I'll be very happy with that!


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Today is going to be painful :sad:


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Today is going to be painful :sad:


Get the books. It will cure your withdrawals :razz:


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