boo boo wrote:
his taste is inconsistant... and the fact that he has the audacity to criticize other animators for stiff animation while being a goddamn Hanna-Barbera fan is just unreal.
I think you've misunderstood his position. Hana-Barbara's early style was incredibly fluid and detailed up around until the time The Jetsons started and everything started to stiffen up until cartoons were basically dead by the 70s. This comment of yours makes it sound as if he's a fan of Johnny Quest or something.
boo boo wrote:
Another thing I hate about him is his belief that any animation style that isn't stereotypically "cartoony" is bad. Because he somehow thinks that is the only way animation can be expressive or original. He's truly a fucking moron in that regard.
The reason he thinks this (which he really doesn't; he's praised non-cartoony things before) is because he was worked for basically two decades straight when he was basically repeatedly told that everything that WAS cartoony was bad, when that's what he wanted to do all along. So it's no wonder that he's a militant cartoony kind of guy. Wouldn't you be crazy obsessed with trying to make everything cartoony and fun and detailed if you were forced to draw shit like this for 20 whole years?:
I wouldn't say that John K has an incredibly limited criteria. This "incredibly limited criteria" is basically to promote a specific type of freedom that John K (and I) believe is still WAY untapped. For me it's pointless to criticize the guy for his tastes. He has a right to them like anyone else and it's not like he's hurting anybody by liking what he likes and not liking what he likes. My problem with John K is that he's so totally in love with the process of animation that he really does underrate the importance of writing and conceptual ideas, and that's the real
reason why he hasn't done any good work since the 90s, not
because everybody else is suppressing him as he'd have you think. He's too willing to animate any commercial piece of shit so long as he can animate it well. He's definitely someone who needs to be working with good collaborators in order to make good material. Just letting him completely loose to do his own thing results in crap like that retarded Ren & Stimpy Adult Cartoon reboot.
Also, as much as I love the great Ren & Stimpy episodes, I'd say there's no more than 15 episodes that are actually very good, and even less than that which are actually great
. His best stuff (Stimpy's Invention, Space Madness, Untamed World) is basically the peak of traditional cartooning as far as I'm concerned, and I'll always give him credit for that, but a lot of Ren & Stimpy (even the early ones) are failures, like Nurse Stimpy. And of course after he left the show it went completely to hell. I know they have their fans and I think Bob Camp is a good guy, but the post-Spumco Ren & Stimpys are really unbearable for me to watch.