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Echoes · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm **Posts:** 3656

I don´t recall any reasonable argument for Cobain not be included in the top 100. I just remember the same old biased arguments against a guitarist who represents the opposite of the shredder-highly-skilled guitarists that the list likes so much.

Echoes · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm **Posts:** 3656

Anyway, I am not going to keep posting on this thread about Cobain. I just want my list to be updated:

THE BEATLES (George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney), Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, Carlos Santana, Duane Allman, Kurt Cobain, Jack White, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, John Frusciante, Mike McCready / Stone Gossard, Tony Iommi, Pete Townshend, Keith Richards, Mark Knopfler, Randy Rhoads, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Freddie King, Mike Bloomfield, Albert King, Peter Green, Jonny Greenwood / Ed O'Brien, Slash, Kirk Hammett / James Hetfield, Frank Zappa, Michael Schenker, Buckethead, Jerry Garcia, Robert Fripp, Ritchie Blackmore, Eddie Hazel, Derek Trucks, Angus Young, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez and Jerry Cantrell.

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:49 pm **Posts:** 3786

Timitzii wrote:

Echoes wrote:

Now, can some one please explain to me what "Dimebag's whammy work and use of harmonics was innovative to metal and rock as a whole" means?
Where can I see that influence? How the use of harmonics on heavy metal is innovative? Didn’t Randy Rhoads used a lot of harmonics several years before Dimebag?

Dimebag Darrell's guitar tone, playing style and especially the use of harmonics and whammy have been REALLY widely imitated. Check out almost any modern heavy metal band out there, the influences are everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0Z-XPmYCg Avenged Sevenfold have often cited Pantera as one of their biggest influences and it is pretty clear from their style. Synyster Gates is blatantly influenced by Darrell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqfj4cqufNA One good example of player who has been hugely influenced by Darrell (and Wylde) is Euge Valovirta from Godsplague. At 1:04 (and especially later parts) you will hear lots of significane to Darrell's riffing and playing style in general
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6QtA7nr7k Same guitarist, another song (you can clearly hear that they are really much influenced by Pantera, especially the vocalist and Valovirta).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAiDKOqfvc Another band with Pantera- and Darrell-influences, you'll notice them pretty fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjCZrsH25Q Another band and guitarist heavily influenced by Pantera and Darrell's fantastic playing: listen to the heavy riffing, squels and the soloing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGaNJw0coA Same band tributing Pantera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fninRnmVRHw AND another Pantera-influenced band, the riffs and vocals sound just like aping the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuO522W2DJQ Tribute to Pantera and especially Dimebag Darrell (He has own festival called Dimefest, for fuck's sake!), fantastic vocals by Leo Jimenez.

There are literally hundreds of bands who are influenced by Pantera and Darrell. Seriously, Pantera were one of the biggest bands of 90's and Darrell was a guitar legend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimebag_Darrell#Tributes List of some tributes for Darrell. Enough?

"Cheers man, I win."

- Dimebag Darrell

Timitzii posted this in response to you stating that Cobain was the greatest guitarist since the nineties. You more or less ignored the entire post which clearly shows that you have no response and that Cobain isn't as great as you claim. Perhaps if you would put in the same time as Timitzii did with your arguments, you would be taken more seriously. Endlessly calling someone distinctive is not going to convince people without other points and substance behind them. Also, do you really think its more likely that an entire forum of people is biased than it is that you are? Just something to think about.

Echoes · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm **Posts:** 3656

Yeah and I posted my breakdown of Cobain vs Dimebag.

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:49 pm **Posts:** 3786

You posted this:

Echoes wrote:

Cobain played the good old guitar style of simple riffs and solos with great melodies and a really strong rock sound. It is simple, yes, and that is why I believe is more difficult to come with a new and distinctive sound as he did.

thats not a breakdown, its not even a coherent response. Anyone who wanted to could have posted random guitar videos and went on to say Dimebag is the most distinctive guitar player since the nineties.

Echoes · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm **Posts:** 3656

I also posted a breakdown. Why you are keeping this discussion on this thread?

Gray · **Joined:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:49 pm **Posts:** 3786

Where do you want to take it?

Echoes · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:43 pm **Posts:** 3656

To the main thread, but latter, right now we are discussing Blackmore vs Page.

Dreww · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 5804

Please destroy my list.

Yousha · **Posted:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:46 am

just noticed Echoes' list has no Beatles....and SanTropez list has no garcia and trey

:confused:

Dreww · **Joined:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:11 pm **Posts:** 5804

Dreww wrote:

Please destroy my list.

SanTropez · **Posted:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:23 pm

I didn't even know I had a list. It must be at least 3-4 years old.

Dreww wrote:

Please destroy my list.

Nick · **Posted:** Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:25 pm

Trey is conspicuous by his absence, San!

Wanted Dead Or Alive · **Joined:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:30 am **Posts:** 3303

Eric Clapton, Gary Moore, Jeff Beck, Brian May, Ritchie Blackmore, Mark Knopfler, Carlos Santana, Neal Schon, Richie Sambora, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slash, Stevie Ray Vaughan, BB King, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Glenn Tipton

Not stricly ordered, but it can replace the current list.

Negative Creep · **Joined:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:21 pm **Posts:** 11679

Wanted Dead Or Alive wrote:

Eric Clapton, Gary Moore, Jeff Beck, Brian May, Ritchie Blackmore, Mark Knopfler, Carlos Santana, Neal Schon, Richie Sambora, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slash, Stevie Ray Vaughan, BB King, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Glenn Tipton

Not stricly ordered, but it can replace the current list.

Ooooh there's a ton of Santana stuff that you need to hear.

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