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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:23 pm 
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he even got a formal warning on the last thread I looked in on


what? where? i obey all the rules, man


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Sir --

you put it best a few pages ago. Lambert is a product of the vile corporate pop machine. it's hard to take his musicianship seriously when he has so littel respect for his final products place in society


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Patrick wrote:
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you put it best a few pages ago. Lambert is a product of the vile corporate pop machine. it's hard to take his musicianship seriously when he has so littel respect for his final products place in society


He's not a product of it. He's using it. Not the same thing!


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:36 pm 
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stargazer121 wrote:
he even got a formal warning on the last thread I looked in on


what? where? i obey all the rules, man


See previous edit re apology - wrong guy re warning - it was Bruce. Avatar looked similar.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:56 pm 
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to be fair to myself i just found out lambert was actually gay like a homosexual today. i thought he was just a raging post glam faggot (thus would be into crazy fisting sessions). is it possible he's both a homosexual who is also a raging faggot?


I'm sure he's straight as a die and just being ironic.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:59 am 
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Patrick wrote:
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you put it best a few pages ago. Lambert is a product of the vile corporate pop machine. it's hard to take his musicianship seriously when he has so littel respect for his final products place in society


He's not a product of it. He's using it. Not the same thing!


no listen, you didn't read. he as an artist constructs an art product. how that art product is used, displayed, distributed, etc. is what is referred to as the "work of art".

lambert has no works of art. he has art product that's being exploited by transnational corporations. doesn't matter how good the product is.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:10 pm 
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RE-EDIT: Isn't that par for the course when, newly signed to a label, you have to respect their investment in you, and honour the contract for a fixed period of time (but the the label can drop you whenever they please). There would have been some negotiating over freedom of expression because Adam showed creativity with every song he did on AI, but with limits all the same. He's in the machine until the end of the contract.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
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probably? doesn't change the analysis


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Has this track sung by Adam been included anywhere in this thread. It's the first time I've come across this one - it's quite psychedelic and deserves to be in the list if it isn't already.

I Got This:

http://youtu.be/phgJ6XBIff4

EDIT: found it!


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:38 pm 
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Patrick wrote:
stargazer121 wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Sir --

you put it best a few pages ago. Lambert is a product of the vile corporate pop machine. it's hard to take his musicianship seriously when he has so littel respect for his final products place in society


He's not a product of it. He's using it. Not the same thing!


no listen, you didn't read. he as an artist constructs an art product. how that art product is used, displayed, distributed, etc. is what is referred to as the "work of art".

lambert has no works of art. he has art product that's being exploited by transnational corporations. doesn't matter how good the product is.


So what do you mean by "has no works of art...... doesn't matter how good the product is" ? Explain further - a work of art in this context then? Owning his own Copyright and policing it?

Isn't the biggest gamechanger YouTube on which a work of art can [also] reside, and be exponentially shared ?

Las edit added and bracketed [also]


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:53 pm 
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Explain further - a work of art in this context then?


a work of art is an art product in any socially or culturally meaningful context

Dewey somewhat surprisingly begins this work with the claim that the very existence of works of art hinders any aesthetic theory that seeks to understand them. Art products exist externally and physically, whereas, on his view, the work of art is really what the physical object does within experience. Also the classic status of many works of art isolates them from the conditions within which they came to be, and hence from their experiential function. The business of aesthetics is to restore the continuity between the refined experiences that are works of art and the experiences of everyday life.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
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Re: Queen and Adam Lambert Show Saturday 14th July at the Hammersmith Apollo - here is a link to the video wall of 69 individuals interviewed on the night (separate short video for each to click on). they were asked approx 4 questions each

Hear the feedback from real people who are fresh out of the door [from the actual experience], rather than [the public] trying to form opinions from just watching YouTube videos - [not you guys]. There are some interviewed before the show, most after. I couldn't help but listen to all of them as it doesn't take long, and of course I was there too and experienced the same show [as well as Thursday's].

Check out how it went down with the audience - I think it's worth getting on the ground responses! (I'm really glad they did these) I was ecstatic and euphoric afterwards on Sat :)

http://www.winkball.com/walls/8RCBC1aCjNd9/queen-and-adam-lambert-hmv-apollo

EDIT 2-4: PRESS FEEDBACK - added press feedback (asked by someone here a few days ago).
This is everything I can find each with an indicator of 9 generally good reviews. 3 were scathing ones .
The 1st 4 below are major UK newspapers and their online editions:

http://tinyurl.com/7xyk8ef (The Independent) :thumb:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jul/12/queen-adam-lambert-review (The Guardian) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/cajqcsm (The Standard) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/btbmgnh (The Telegraph)

http://tinyurl.com/cfvht5k (Entertainment Wise) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/cmvvbrr (4music) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/c9lya39 (MarkGilroyMusic) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/c8lp9wm (Put the Needle On It) :thumb:
http://www.raysgigs.com/index.php?p=178 (go to 11th July) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/c9c4n4y (Blakemore-Noble plus images) :thumb:
http://tinyurl.com/cjgcvof (Classic Rock)
http://tinyurl.com/d28hxoy (Antiquiet review)

How about a discussion of any of the above?


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:56 pm 
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Lambert performs "Pop That Lock" - first live performance of this track. With the band headlining a concert at Costa Mesa CA last night. Band adds a touch of Smooth Criminal beat in it for a little twist at the end (not on album).

Great performance and suddenly it stands out for me as one of the better tracks on the album, but especially listening to it live (and with a proper band). This is far superior to the album track personally:

http://youtu.be/dj4QR_gAKC8 This one by @TALCvids

http://youtu.be/E0ZTYuA0DJ8. not so good picture quality but the sound is perhaps slightly better


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:10 am 
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Audio of the London show on Dime: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-deta ... ?id=413833

Grab it while it's hot.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Lambert
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So a very nice youtube of Hammersmith (#3) turned up - have you all discussed whether this should be added to the Best Live list?

http://youtu.be/ng0bnfc8f0g


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