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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:42 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Still think Sam Cooke's NIGHT BEAT could be on here.

Actually Beast, the focus here is equally on technicality and importance.
How else do you think Elvis and The Beatles could have albums in the top 20?


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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nah, i mean the forum in itself man, the forum itself has become way too technical for my liking....


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Yah but it's always been like that.
I don't even bother with the technical vocalists thread anymore. It's just too much of a hassle, though I do enjoy the discussion.

And plus, I don't want any list where Elvis Presley isn't top 10. :biggrin:


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Elvis is actually as skilled as Mercury as a vocalist.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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The only area where he beats Merc is resonance.
Stylistic versatility is extremely close though.

Presley is my favorite vocalist ever, hands down. But he's not as skilled as Freddie.

Unless this is just a troll...


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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It's probably closer than you think it is. Elvis sounds more polished than Freddie though Freddie certainly pushed his voice further and did more impressive things with it.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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He sounds more polished than just about anyone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbCeKqlySFQ


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Sinisterism wrote:
Elvis is actually as skilled as Mercury as a vocalist.


Now you've really crossed the line. :facepalm: I think your perception of skill is just using the right technique, which is wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Sinisterism wrote:
It's probably closer than you think it is. Elvis sounds more polished than Freddie though Freddie certainly pushed his voice further and did more impressive things with it.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Yes, I read that and it only confirms my point. You say he is skilled as Mercury although Mercury did much more impressive things. It's a contradiction.
How skilled you are = how impressive is the stuff you do with your voice.
You don't have to have the perfect techinque, you don't have to have traditional approach, you don't need to take any singing lessons in order to be extremely skilled. Talent plays a huge role..


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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No, it's not a contradiction at all.

Freddie Mercury did more impressive things with it because he pushed his voice further.

Elvis Presley had more polished technique


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Having more polished technique =/= more skilled.

Not everyone could push their voices the same. And not everyone is born with equally good voice.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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I know that. It's a combination of nature and nurture, so to speak.

When we're talking about the elite of the elite, they are almost all going to be extremely naturally talented. However, some of them have polished their innate vocal talent to a higher level.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Vocal Albums
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Again when you take 2 singers with equal talent, better technique =/= more skilled. It's more than just that I'd say. For example Mercury is famous that he got 100% out of his voice...not everyone could do that.


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