Interesting. When they were new, "Golden Years" was MUCH more well-known than "Heroes" or "The Man Who Sold The World". It's really only the remakes of the latter two (by The Wallflowers and Nirvana, respectively) that put those songs ahead of "Golden Years" to younger listeners. (What that means for the contest, I don't know.)

I'm amazed that there are any people under 50 who don't know "Christmas Wrapping". It's a great song, though.

Im asking for a revision of rules regarding 1st to 5 votes. I think there are at least 15-20 regular posters, so a vote to 5 would mean tons of people wont even get to vote. So I ask for it to remain an open ended vote for a day, or race to 10 votes ? thoughts ?

Yeah wtf? I thought we were doing this in the same way we did the previous tournaments. The whole fun is that we get to discuss and compare the songs in the matchup. If 5 people can settle a match up quickly, then a lot of people will not end up even listening to most of the tracks.

Good point, I agree. I'll change it immediately...

btw, Windowpane is not too popular ? I mean Opeth's most popular 'clean' song Im assuming ?

I would wary about what's being considered maybe too popular. From the intention of timi's post I think he just wants to avoid already great and lauded songs, like anything you'll see on the top 50 of any publication's lists of greatest songs. Opeth still seems like a very niche band to me so even if it's their most popular clean song or whatever, there are still people, like me, who haven't heard it or don't remember what it sounded like. So if it's like a really popular artist duck down just a little, if it's semi popular, you have more range.

And I also think you shouldn't be too obscure either because those never work out in the long run because it is hard work to stop and listen to a band afresh multiple times.

Whoever nominated Station to Station got the right idea of what I would think would be the happy medium here. Songs from artists we've probably heard, but won't show up on any greatest of all time lists any time soon.

Here are other similar songs that are in that ideal:
David Bowie- A New Career in Town
Bruce Springsteen- Tenth Avenue Freeze Out
Talking Heads- Cities
Radiohead- You and Whose Army?
Jay-Z- Can't Knock the Hustle


see? That is what is up

good explanation Wanta, in fact I would like to see more songs of that vein nominated. I don't think we should try to avoid songs that other people have heard, I just think we should avoid all-time great songs you would read in a magazine list.

For example, I nominated a D'angelo track (what?!?!), and of course D'angelo was/is an international superstar with chart-topping hits, but I picked an album track.

So much this

Also, half day matchups, that is ridiculous, they should at least be one full day if not two.

Exactly. If somebody nominates The Beatles' "One After 909", I don't care if it is one of "100 Greatest Songs of 1970", 'the 80th greatest The Beatles-song' or so on. As long as the nominated song isn't a classic radio staple we all know, it's a fine addition to the list. Album tracks usually work very well.

Although I hate to admit it, Echoes' nominations work as a good example. The other nomination was a song by Lennon: It wasn't "Imagine" but rather a less popular album pick. That works fine.



I actually meant 1 or 2 days with "1/2", my mistake.

I agree with everything said so far today.

Gray is a douche.

Here are my noms. One is a more recent obsession, and the other is an old favorite.

Nicolas Jaar - Time For Us

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Time+For+Us ... 9JSo?src=5

Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin - Je t'aime moi non plus

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Je+T+aime+M ... llru?src=5

edit: changed first song.

Muse - Exogenesis Symphony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEH98_Ha2aA


The Velvet Underground - What Goes On

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtntDoDoEbQ

I would love it if this tournament got DDD to realise what an incredible talent Nico Jaar is.