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 Post subject: The Forgotten Sons
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:29 pm 
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I suppose this is a type of underrated album thread, but that's not specifically what I'm looking for. But this thread is for listing albums that have otherwise been thrown on the wayside, mostly by being usurped by more acclaimed albums. These aren't particularly bad albums that people underrate, in fact they're usually good and obtained acclaim upon its initial release. These albums also tend to not stand for much, like there's no special 'idea' it has going for it.

I think the album that prompted me to query this is Kanye West's Graduation, which no one (except for batman i think) ranks very highly among his discography because of being eclipsed by other albums of his that do similar things (ie mbdtf). So there's nothing it can really stand for. Which is why something like 808's and Heartbreaks doesn't fit here because it has its own special and unique function within Kanye's output.

Can you think of any other albums from artists that fit this bill?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:35 pm 
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Can we rename this thread "The Forgies"?


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Kind of an oddball case that came to my mind: Emmit Rhodes never made it big, but his self-titled debut is considered a classic in certain circles, and his work with the Merry-Go-Round has its fans. Personally, though, I really like his second solo album, Mirror.


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Safe as Milk is considered a great album, but not as great as it would be if there was never any Trout Mask Replica.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:14 am 
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I think I prefer Safe As Milk, as great as Trout Mask Replica is.


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Never For Ever is the one that most comes to mind for me at this moment, it would have rightful masterpiece status if anyone else had made it but because it's Kate Bush all people ever want to talk about are The Dreaming and Hounds of Love, it's better than The Kick Inside IMO.


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I feel like Deep Cuts kinda fits this a little bit. People talk about Heartbeats but not all the other amazing tracks off that album.

McCartney was overshadowed by Ram.

Colour of Spring is obviously overshadowed by the last two Talk Talk albums.

Washed Out's High Times is overshadowed by the more popular EPs and albums that followed (I think it's his best material).

PU and Joy Division were really amazing in the stuff they released before their debut albums. The compilations those songs are on are acclaimed, but not as listened to because people fetishize albums. I honestly prefer the rawness of these songs to anything that would follow:



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 Post subject: Re: The Forgotten Sons
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Oh yeah, how could I forget?

The fucking Yes Album.


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Jailbreak by Thin Lizzy is a really solid record filled with great straight up hard rock, but it never seems to get brought up a lot these days.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:59 am 
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Really? It's their best selling studio album, it has the highest rating of any of their albums on most websites and it has their 2 biggest hits, that's weird, I find it overrated if anything. I don't like how low in the mix the bass is and I find the songs a little too samey.

Black Rose: A Rock Legend is the one that really does it for me, Lynott's best songwriting, amazing bass sound, great guitar work from Gary Moore and possibly the best production work Tony Visconti has ever done, fucking love that album.


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I really like Thunder and Lightning, but I'm not sure that it's a fit for this thread as it's not particularly acclaimed.


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wantabodylikeme wrote:
I think the album that prompted me to query this is Kanye West's Graduation, which no one (except for batman i think) ranks very highly among his discography


always #1 on my Kanye list


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it seems like most people would say "At War with the Mystics" is like the rejects off "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots," but I think it's the Flaming Lips best album


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batman wrote:
it seems like most people would say "At War with the Mystics" is like the rejects off "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots,"


They make that sound like a bad thing.

I don't get the hate for Mystics either, I have a much harder time trying to get into Embryonic, which I consider the point where David Fridmann's compression fetish has gotten really out of control.


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