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 Post subject: Explain the Appeal
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:06 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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Dreww wrote:
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same, idgi


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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Damn, I always thought of Beach House as a Dreww band. I like them enough, but yeah they're not AOTY material or anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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I can see the appeal in even some of the shittiest music, the major exception being the stuff indie fags pimp on a regular basis.

You can try to explain the appeal of indefensible horseshit like Joanna Newsom and The National. But you will fail.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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I think I know this. I think why bands like Beach House and AC have connected with the world so much (including me still) is because at their best moments they take you into childlike levels of vulnerability. The feeling you get when you submit to music so much that during that very moment for once in your life, everything feels so simple, you cease to think, you reach a moment of clarity amidst the music's moving accessibility. You're so humbled by how much you felt that all you want to do is water your eyes. And as far as formalism is concerned, their brand of pop isn't like the traditional 2 to 3 minute song-oriented kind either (a Beach House or AC ringtone would kinda suck), it's almost like a pop jam band if that even makes sense, where they slip into hooky moments and draw them out and every change becomes those transcendent moments.

Sometimes life gets too complicated bros, and that's why we listen to pop music, it restores sense into your world.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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wanta wrote:
it's almost like a pop jam band if that even makes sense, where they slip into hooky moments and draw them out and every change becomes those transcendent moments.

This is very intriguing to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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Do you not like Beach House at all, Dreww? I can't imagine not at least enjoying songs as perfect as Gila, Myth and Master of None.

Also, what is so incredible about Everything Is Embarrassing to you? I'm obsessed with the song too, but I think it's got a similiarish sound to Beach House.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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I think you meant Everything is Embarassing justin

idk how to go further with the Beach House is a pop jam band, but I think Silver Soul and Walk in the Park are good examples, where they just take their hooks and squeeze them out repeatedly and then they slip into another hook and repeat it again. It's like a series of pop song outros patched together for the whole song. You know when like you have regular jam bands who like to make those faces cuz they're living in the moment of their improvised guitar playing, I think Beach House does that with hooks, where it feels like they're possessed by being so in the moment of their hooks.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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Except their faces are just like...-_- or something

if that trey guy ever joins them they could call themselves phish in the beach house or something


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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joe c wrote:
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot


The problems of the modern world, technology as a failed solution to the problems of distance (both physical and more importantly emotional), the incoherence of postmodern life, the absurdity of the search for meaning in an overflowing mess of a world, etc. Plus, it's catchy.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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wantabodylikeme wrote:
idk how to go further with the Beach House is a pop jam band, but I think Silver Soul and Walk in the Park are good examples, where they just take their hooks and squeeze them out repeatedly and then they slip into another hook and repeat it again. It's like a series of pop song outros patched together for the whole song. You know when like you have regular jam bands who like to make those faces cuz they're living in the moment of their improvised guitar playing, I think Beach House does that with hooks, where it feels like they're possessed by being so in the moment of their hooks.


I like this explanation. It is almost an Ozuian strategy. Repetition and similarity so that when even the most microscopic detail is different, it registers loudly (depending on how closely you are paying attention/the way in which you are paying attention). I will now listen to the songs you mention with this argument in mind.

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Do you not like Beach House at all, Dreww? I can't imagine not at least enjoying songs as perfect as Gila, Myth and Master of None.

Also, what is so incredible about Everything Is Nothing to you? I'm obsessed with the song too, but I think it's got a similiarish sound to Beach House.

As for do I like Beach House at all, yes, I like the songs mentioned in a limited way. My problem is I have never been able to justify them as the album band some consider them to be.

With "Everything is Embarrassing", I have to say I do not see too much similarity between it and Beach House's music other than that they both have hazy lazy warm elements. I like "EiE" more than any Beach House song I have heard because I like the contrast between those hazy elements and the much more tactile, sensuous vocals and beat, whereas Beach House tend to just abandon themselves to the haze in a very dream pop-esque way, which is not something I'm particularly into. I think the best chillwave music also works by putting more immediate, sensuous, tactile elements within a larger, spacier context.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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I don't know, it just feels very MOR to me. @tudwell


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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wantabodylikeme wrote:
I think you meant Everything is Embarassing justin

idk how to go further with the Beach House is a pop jam band, but I think Silver Soul and Walk in the Park are good examples, where they just take their hooks and squeeze them out repeatedly and then they slip into another hook and repeat it again. It's like a series of pop song outros patched together for the whole song. You know when like you have regular jam bands who like to make those faces cuz they're living in the moment of their improvised guitar playing, I think Beach House does that with hooks, where it feels like they're possessed by being so in the moment of their hooks.


Fuck. Yeah, not sure why that happened.


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 Post subject: Re: Explain the Appeal
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Dreww wrote:
With "Everything is Embarrassing", I have to say I do not see too much similarity between it and Beach House's music other than that they both have hazy lazy warm elements. I like "EiE" more than any Beach House song I have heard because I like the contrast between those hazy elements and the much more tactile, sensuous vocals and beat, whereas Beach House tend to just abandon themselves to the haze in a very dream pop-esque way, which is not something I'm particularly into. I think the best chillwave music also works by putting more immediate, sensuous, tactile elements within a larger, spacier context.


Thanks; the contrast argument is totally fair.


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