That was 2004 though, I've heard a couple live songs from Death Magnetic and he sounded much better.

Just having to look at Joey Jordinson sure pisses me off though.

Hahaha, I don't think Lars looks much better!

The worst song I've heard in a long time.

Pretty much anything having anything to do with modern country music qualifies for this thread.

I'd still hit that btw.

Miranda Lambert isn't that bad.

Me too.

Gretchen wilson can sing though......and shes quite fine....

She can, for sure, but that won't make "Redneck Woman" any better.

Why do people fetishize talent used worthlessly?

this is what ive been saying all along, except that i'm kind of a dick about it

I don't see anybody on this page "fetishizing" anything.

Actually, after I posted that, my first thought was something along the lines of: this is such a dreamcoil post. I disagree with you a fair bit but you are absolutely right on that point.

It can be interesting to think about the ways in which worthless music that evinces great talent is worthless in different ways from worthless music that is talentless, but that doesn't make it any less worthless.

Responding to a video of a song with no redeeming qualities with "Gretchen Wilson can sing though" as if it is a redeeming quality is close enough. It's valuing the mere presence of talent when that talent is used in a totally and unmitigatedly disastrous manner.

But I will admit that an aspect of my post was in response to the entire vocalist subforum, which is predicated on fetishizing horrendously misused talent. Yousha's post happened to remind me of the existence of that subforum and hence I asked.

it depends though you know, like 'hot girls have problems too' is completely talentless but less worthless than a lot of other music that is talentless and worthless. i think my problem in communicating may be that im extrapolating talent to a para-musical realm, though it all boils down to relatability at the end of the day, imo