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 Post subject: Project Treefingers: 1990's List and Discussion (unfinished)
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:26 am 
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INDIVIDUAL LISTS ARE DUE BY THE END OF THE DAY ON DECEMBER 14th, 2014


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1) Each individual list is to comprise no more or less than 50 films released from 2000-2009, ranked in your order of preference (with no ties).

2) Any feature film, documentary, experimental film, short film, music video, TV miniseries, TV movie, or TV special that fits in the category of a given list project is generally eligible.

3) Television series or seasons / episodes of television series are never ever eligible. Which means NO The Wire

4) Two-part films released separately (e.g. Kill Bills) count as one film. Each entry in a trilogy (e.g. Jackson's Lord of the Rings) counts as a separate film.

5. IMDB dates rule all. Original release only (the year by its title). No exceptions. I understand the ludicrousness of this, but there needs to be a consistent anchor.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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Can we PLEASE make it RYM dates instead of IMDB dates? They are much more accurate.


Current TSPDT Entries:
1. Close-Up
2. Satantango
3. GoodFellas
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Histoire(s) du cinema
6. Beau travail
7. A Brighter Summer Day
8. Chungking Express
9. Breaking the Waves
10. The Thin Red Line
11. The Big Lebowski
12. Three Colours: Blue
13. The Piano
14. Fargo
15. Groundhog Day
16. Unforgiven
17. Three Colours: Red
18. The Double Life of Veronique
19. Reservoir Dogs
20. Through the Olive Trees
21. Schindler's List
22. The Puppetmaster
23. Underground
24. Festen
25. Magnolia
26. Heat
27. Happy Together
28. The Wind Will Carry Us
29. All About My Mother
30. Eyes Wide Shut
31. Safe
32. A Taste of Cherry
33. A Moment of Innocence
34. Barton Fink
35. The Matrix
36. Nouvelle vague
37. Toy Story
38. Flowers of Shanghai
39. Lost Highway
40. Naked
41. Quince Tree of the Sun
42. Rosetta
43. Short Cuts
44. Days of Being Wild
45. Trainspotting
46. Raise the Red Lantern
47. An Angel at My Table
48. The Silence of the Lambs
49. Casino
50. Sicilia
51. The Idiots
52. Mother and Son
53. Dead Man
54. Farewell, My Concubine
55. Fight Club
56. The Shawhank Redemption
57. Secrets & Lies
58. Hoop Dreams
59. Dazed and Confused
60. La Belle noiseuse
61. After Life
62. Les Amants du Pont-Neuf
63. Vive L'Amour
64. The Last Bolshevik
65. Forrest Gump
66. Boogie Nights
67. Miller's Crossing
68. Thelma & Louise
69. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
70. Outer Space
71. Orlando
72. Gummo
73. My Own Private Idaho
74. La Haine
75. Funny Games
76. Abraham's Valley
77. Topsy-Turvy
78. Lone Star
79. LA Confidential
80. The River
81. JFK
82. Princess Mononoke
83. The Long Day Closes
84. The Age of Innocence
85. Edward Scissorhands
86. Von Gogh
87. Starship Troopers
88. The Usual Suspects
89. Exotica
90. Hana-Bi
91. D'est
92. Hyenes
93. The Match Factory Girl
94. Crumb
95. Wild at Heart
96. Ju Dou
97. The Insider
98. Rushmore
99. The Sweet Hereafter
100. And Life Goes On
101. American Beauty
102. Election
103. Se7en
104. Ed Wood

Ex-TSPDT Entries:
• Ashes of Time
• Audition
• Babe
• Bad Lieutenant
• Beauty and the Beast
• The Bridges of Madison County
• Bullet in the Head
• Burnt by the Sun
• Caro Diario
• Central Station
• Un Coeur en hiver
• Crash
• The Crying Game
• Dances with Wolves
• Eternity and a Day
• Europa
• Fallen Angels
• The Godfather Part III
• Happiness
• Husbands and Wives
• Irma Vep
• Jacob’s Ladder
• Jurassic Park
• The Last of the Mohicans
• Leaving Las Vegas
• Leolo
• Lessons of Darkness
• Light Sleeper
• Natural Born Killers
• The Pillow Book
• The Player
• Poison
• The Remains of the Day
• Riff-Raff
• Saving Private Ryan
• The Sheltering Sky
• Sonatine
• The Story of Qui Ju
• The Straight Story
• Three Colours: White
• Titanic
• To Live
• To Sleep with Anger
• Tongues United
• The Truman Show
• Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me

TSPDT Highly Recommended:
• Docteur Petiot
• The Grifters
• Trust
• Cape Fear
• Homicide
• The Hours and Times
• Man Bites Dog
• Visions of Light: The Art of Cinematography
• L’enfer
• Suture
• Theremin: An Electronic Odyssey
• Bullets Over Broadway
• Devil in a Blue Dress
• Shanghai Triad
• Smoke
• The Underneath
• Bound
• Hard Eight/Sydney
• Buffalo ‘66
• Henry Fool
• The Ice Storm
• Kundun
• Nil by Mouth
• The Spanish Prisoner
• Ulee’s Gold
• Antz
• An Autumn Tale/Conte d’automne
• The Dream Live of Angels/La Vie revee des anges
• The Limey
• Ride with the Devil
• Sleepy Hollow
• Three Kings
• Wonderland


RYM has a pretty good list too:
http://rateyourmusic.com/films/chart?pa ... countries=

So does Slant:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/features/r ... -the-1990s


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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I think if there's a major discrepancy that you could make an argument for a film date then you can bring it to my attention, but I'd like imdb to be the go to.


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Oh my god I love the 90s time to geek down!

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My pick is Vincent Gallo's amazing, sui generis Buffalo '66, which is now floating around the internet in gorgeous Blu rips. I wish there were more "art" films in the sense that this is an art film. Too many are either just superficially gorgeous with tacked on, strained-serious philosophical/political/sociological themes that would be better suited to a nonfiction book expounding them. Gallo, though smart, is not an intellectual man in the slightest, yet possesses something even more rare and important for a filmmaker: an exceptionally sensitive ear and eye. He is hyperattuned to how things look and sound and feel, how different cinematic elements interact and bump off of each other. If you just watch movies to see an entertaining or moving story which present thought-provoking ideas, you will probably find this film lacking. Like with The Big Lebowski, the plot at first appears mostly a thin excuse to allow for other more interesting artistic elements to titillate you. Like with The Big Lebowski, closer structural analysis reveals that the plot is in fact embedded with all kinds of significance (and if people actually start to watch the film I may get into that). But that said, the main attraction of this film is a journey through Gallo's ability to curate sensations, movements, juxtapositions, textures, attitudes, and emotional provocations. Too many movies have a basic style that they stick through for the entirety: this film is unified by a consistent cinematography (which as one of the few films to be shot on reversal stock has the coloring of a gorgeous 70s polaroid), but other than that, each scene throws entirely different techniques of framing, editing, and pacing at you, adding up to one of the most richly textured narrative films I've ever seen. Many of the scenes are so unique, you'll never forget them, especially two scenes scored to unlikely prog rock epics. Gallo's main character, Billy, is an insensitive/hypersenstive, insecure/arrogant, manipulative jerk who is impossible to like... except for the fact that the rhythms of his New York hipster drawl are some of the most entertaining you'll hear, and make him incredibly watchable. Some viewers can't stand him. For me he is a psychic trainwreck captured with the intensity of a Travis Bickle: both of these films capture a fractured masculinity helplessly kicking and screaming in all directions, all while desperately trying to maintain their different approaches to acceptable masculine social performance. The film has definite flaws which I won't go into, but it has so much going for it that to me it's ultimately more valuable and has proven more worthy of rewatches over the years than other, much more "perfect" films. If you haven't seen it, run don't walk.

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I will progressively be posting blurbs for most of these throughout the thread.

Films that I know well enough/have seen recently enough to know they will be on my list (unless some of the ones in the bottom third are knocked off for films I rewatch/watch for the first time) in rough order:
1. Nenette et Boni (1996, Denis)
2. Beau travail (1999, Denis)
3. The Shawshank Redemption (1994, Darabont)
4. Pulp Fiction (1994, Tarantino)
5. Mother and Son (1997, Sokurov)
6. The Big Lebowski (1998, Coens)
7. Toy Story (1995, Lasseter)
8. Fight Club (1999, Fincher)
9. Buffalo '66 (1998, Gallo)
10. The Wife (1995, Noonan)
11. The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1992, Petrov)
12. Pi (1998, Aronofsky)
13. Trust (1990, Hartley)
14. Safe (1995, Haynes)
15. Lost Highway (1997, Lynch)
16. Rosetta (1999, Dardennes)
17. Eyes Wide Shut (1999, Kubrick)
18. U.S. Go Home (1994, Denis)
19. Unforgiven (1992, Eastwood)
20. Toy Story 2 (1999, Lasseter)
21. Dead Man (1995, Jarmusch)
22. Outer Space (1999, Tscherkassky)
23. Things You Can Tell Just By Looking At Her (1999, García)
24. Chungking Express (1994, Wong)
25. Before Sunrise (1995, Linklater)
26. American Beauty (1999, Mendes)
27. What Happened Was... (1994, Noonan)
28. Crumb (1994, Zwigoff)
29. The Game (1997, Fincher)
30. Titanic (1997, Cameron)
31. Festen (1998, Vinterberg)
32. Groundhog Day (1993, Ramis)
33. Barton Fink (1991, Coen)
34. Welcome to the Dollhouse (1995, Solondz)
35. Close-Up (1990, Kiarostami)
36. Gummo (1997, Korine)
37. Breaking the Waves (1996, Von Trier)
38. In the Company of Men (1997, LaBute)
39. Raise the Red Lantern (1991, Yimou)
40. Citizen Ruth (1996, Payne)
41. Heat (1995, Mann)
42. Exotica (1994, Egoyan)
43. Lessons of Darkness (1992, Herzog)
44. Election (1999, Payne)
45. Fargo (1996, Coen)
46. Jackie Brown (1997, Tarantino)
47. The Sweet Hereafter (1997, Egoyan)
48. Rushmore (1998, Anderson)
49. Julien Donkey Boy (1999, Korine)
50. Baraka (1992, Fricke)
51. The Matrix (1999, Wachowskis)
52. The Wrong Trousers (1993, Park)
53. Friday (1995, Gray)
54. Jurassic Park (1993, Speilberg)
55. Malcolm X (1992, Lee)
56. LA Confidential (1997, Hanson)
57. Leaving Las Vegas (1995, Figgis)
58. Fucking Amal (1998, Moodysson)
59. Flirt (1995, Hartley)
60. Funny Games (1997, Haneke)
61. Sink or Swim (1990, Friedrich)
62. The Iron Giant (1999, Bird)
63. Fallen Angels (1995, Wong)
64. Princess Mononoke (1997, Miyazaki)
65. Space Jam (1996, Pytka)
66. The Insider (1999, Michael Mann)
67. Paradise Lost (1996, Berlinger/Sinofsky)
68. Babe: Pig in the City (1998, Miller)
69. Dazed and Confused (1993, Linklater)
70. Hoop Dreams (1994, James)
71. All About My Mother (1999, Almodovar)
72. A Bug’s Life (1998, Lasseter)
73. A Simple Plan (1998, Raimi)
74. Man Bites Dog (1992, Belvaux/Bonzel/Poelvoorde)
75. Hearts of Darkness (1991, Bahr/Hickenlooper)
76. Metropolitan (1990, Stillman)
77. Topsy-Turvy (1999, Leigh)
78. Clueless (1995, Heckerling)
79. Night on Earth (1991, Jarmusch)
80. The Blair Witch Project (1999, Sánchez/Myrick)
81. Husbands and Wives (1992, Allen)
82. All the Vermeers in New York (1990, Jost)
83. Naked (1993, Leigh)
84. American History X (1998, Kaye)
85. To Sleep With Anger (1990, Burnett)
86. La promesse (1996, Dardennes)
87. Se7en (1995, Fincher)
88. Aladdin (1992, Clements/Musker)
89. Van Gogh (1991, Pialat)
90. The Lion King (1994, Allers/Minkoff)
91. Life is Sweet (1990, Leigh)
92. Men in Black (1997, Sonenfeld)
93. No Fear, No Die (1990, Denis)
94. Kids (1995, Clarke)



Films that I have seen and liked but would need to rewatch before being able to place accurately, ranked by current perceived likelihood that I will in fact revisit and include them:
Satantango
Three Colours: Red
Three Colours: Blue
The Thin Red Line
Taste of Cherry
The Double Life of Veronique
The Piano
Happy Together
Secrets and Lies
Beyond the Clouds
Ratcatcher
Short Cuts
Beauty and the Beast
Leon: The Professional
The Player
The Straight Story
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
Wild at Heart


Films that I plan on watching for the first time (likely to expand) listed alphabetically:
A Brighter Summer Day
A Moment of Innocence
Abraham's Valley
An Angel at My Table
Farewell, My Concubine
Flowers of Shanghai
La Haine
The Last Bolshevik
Les Amants du Pont-Neuf
Life and Nothing More
Only Yesterday
Paris is Burning
The Puppetmaster
Quince Tree of the Sun
Simple Men
The Wind Will Carry Us
Through the Olive Trees
Underground
Vive L'Amour
Whisper of the Heart


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Safe (1995, Todd Haynes) – On a budget of less than one million dollars, Todd Haynes made a film that looks and feels as good as any of Kubrick’s polished, megabudget productions, and is about one thousand times more complex and deeply unnerving than any of them. The film seems to be about many different typical 1990s leftist hangups at once (race, class, gender, politics, spirituality) while at the same time not being fully about any of them. Fitting for a film that you enjoy the most the less you know going in, ultimately the purpose is for the viewer to undergo what the protagonist undergoes: the powerful need to know when ultimately we have to live from a radical position of not fully knowing. It’s a scary place to be, and a confusing one, but also a place where, weirdly, you may feel the most alive. Also did I mention that it is a perfectly crafted masterpiece?

Pulp Fiction (1994, Quentin Tarantino) – Simply put, the most perfectly conceived and crafted piece of trash imaginable and not just the signature 90s film, but the best 90s film. When we are young we are drawn to the constant profanity, the mundanely elaborative rhythmic dialogue, and the intensity of the righteous (and unrighteous) violence. But at some point you really see Pulp Fiction, and it becomes more than just a clever, exciting movie, but a living, breathing, self-contained autoerotic universe. We see how Tarantino is a veritable master of widescreen space: totally in control of every shot, the positioning of every last element in every frame bristling with its own purified, semiotic energy, interacting vividly with all the other elements framed into their own spaces of purified, semiotic energy. Bruce Willis unsheathing a sword with the American flag’s colors burning the screen in the background. Samuel L Jackson’s sweaty forehead as he holds a gun across a diner table. The editing is smooth as silk; a perfect balance between intensity and patience. The music is either bombasting you with an adrenaline rush or contributing to a blissed out, cool-as-fuck atmosphere. The film’s famously grab-bag structuring seems like it should deny narrative pleasure, but instead it just makes everything even more interesting and satisfying. Each section of the film goes for something different from the other, but all succeed as much as could possibly be imagined, and complement each other with perfect structural integrity. They complement by mirroring, as in the scenes of minimum shot slow burn: one comedic (yellow room Christopher Walken explains to innocent child Butch about the watch), one dramatic (redroom Marcellus Wallace tells adult Butch—morally ambiguous shadow covering half his face—to take a dive). And they compliment by contrast: compare the blissed-out surf rock heroin high to the addled, musicless heroin overdose. I could go on, but it’s more fun if you notice these parallelisms yourself. What about the beautiful formal choices even within single shots: they need to go into the room and kill some people, but not yet, so the camera stays put and watches them walk to the end of the hallway to continue their disgressive conversation, until they finish it and come back to the same camera position. It’s a little touch, but it’s a pleasingly executed moment which perfectly matches form to content, like the best, simple kind of jazz. So maybe Tarantino’s “dead nigger” monologue is a little off note. So maybe the speech at the end injects a little false morality into a film that is deliciously amoral. These are small flaws in what is probably the most tight but sprawling but minimalistic but explosive film imaginable. We will be very lucky if Tarantino, or anyone else really, achieves this level of formalist genre-fucking again.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:12 am 
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How the hell'd you write that so quickly?


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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I started putting it together as soon as wanta announced a 90s project and just put them in a doc and waited for the thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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I'm disappointed. In the answer and myself.

Anyway, apparently seen 86 films from the 90s, but I'd chance to say a lot of them are awful. Probably won't get around to seeing too many new films due to my net and uni, but I'll have a list this time 'round.


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1. Pulp Fiction
2. Shawshank Redemption
3. L.A. Confidential
4. The Big Lebowski
5. Schindler's List
6. Rushmore
7. Buena Vista Social Club
8. Fargo
9. Mighty Aphrodite
10. Bottle Rocket
11. Toy Story
12. The Matrix
13. Sweet and Lowdown
14. Ghengis Blues
15. When We Were Kings
16. Grosse Pointe Blank
17. Forrest Gump
18. Fight Club
19. Hoop Dreams
20. The Usual Suspects
21. Bullets Over Broadway
22. Crumb
23. American Beauty
24. Waiting For Guffman
25. American Movie
26. Everyone Says I Love You
27. South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
28. Saving Private Ryan
29. Groundhog Day
30. Unforgiven
31. Braveheart
32. Prince of Egypt
33. Shakespeare in Love
34. Three Colors: Blue
35. Three Kings
36. Dances With Wolves
37. Being John Malkovich
38. Jesus' Son
39. Jackie Brown
40. Men in Black
41. Jurassic Park
42. Boogie Nights
43. Apollo 13
44. Cradle Will Rock
45. The Big One
46. The Road to Welleville
47. Out of Sight
48. Toy Story 2
49. the Hudsucker Proxy
50. Babe


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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You've never seen Titanic, Dreww?

I'm gonna try and post a list for this. I'm not a massive film viewer so I imagine most of the films I watch until November will be from the 90s.


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I will do my best to get to 50. It may require watching nothing but 90s films between now and the end of November, since I'm only at 17 right now...


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I've apparently seen 125 but few arthouse or non-English-language films.


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wantabodylikeme wrote:
The Lion King (Vil)

:lol: I suppose that's somewhat accurate.


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A very very very tentative list for now:

1. Magnolia
2. The Truman Show
3. Ed Wood
4. Husbands and Wives
5. Pulp Fiction
6. Boogie Nights
7. Toy Story
8. The Shawshank Redemption
9. Schindler's List
10. Toy Story 2
11. Groundhog Day
12. Saving Private Ryan
13. The Nightmare Before Christmas
14. Fallen Angels
15. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
16. The Lion King
17. American Movie
18. Man Bites Dog
19. Fargo
20. The Iron Giant
21. Fight Club
22. Election
23. Ninja Scroll
24. Se7en
25. Unforgiven
26. Rosetta
27. Aladdin
28. Crumb
29. Happiness
30. Chungking Express
31. South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut
32. Hoop Dreams
33. American Beauty
34. Misery
35. La Haine
36. Beauty and the Beast
37. The Thin Red Line
38. Welcome to the Dollhouse
39. Being John Malkovich
40. Goodfellas
41. Sydney (Hard Eight)
42. The Wrong Trousers
43. Gummo
44. Princess Mononoke
45. Funny Games
46. Heat
47. Dead Man
48. The Fifth Element
49. A Bug's Life
50. Good Will Hunting


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 Post subject: Re: Project Treefingers: 1990's Films List & Discussion
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Hang wrote:
You've never seen Titanic, Dreww?

Nah. I probably won't get around to it for this either.

Just finished Unforgiven for the first time in probably seven years. Almost didn't revisit it, but I'm so glad I did. I really had no memory of it other than the general look of the film. All I can say is wow. What a masterpiece of updated classical Hollywood storytelling. I used to think Dead Man was the definitive 90s western, and it is more characteristically 90s in its attitude and approach, but I think Unforgiven's high functioning classicism (+ latter day brutality) has it beat. What an amazing cast of characters, with all the leading players and character actors putting in great performances. This is surely my favorite performance from Hackman, and off the top of my head I can't think of an Eastwood or Freeman performance I appreciate more than these either (though I could be wrong about that). Every scene is perfectly filled with interest. It's also surprisingly funny, since the whole movie is basically about dicks. And of course the drama and tension are handled incredibly well. I really don't have much to say about it other than that it is totally well made, affecting, and thrilling. As of now I am placing it comfortably in the top third of my list. The only problem is now I want to watch a bunch of westerns, and there aren't too many notable ones from this decade...


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