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 Post subject: Top 100 Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:58 am 
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For those who don't know, progressive rock is a rock music subgenre which originated in the United Kingdom, with further developments in Germany, Italy and France, throughout the mid to late 1960s and 1970s. Developing from psychedelic rock, progressive rock originated, similarly to art rock, as a "British attempt" to give greater artistic weight and credibility to rock music.

Criteria: The songs are ranked on their influence on progressive rock, not on rock in general, technical uniqueness, and musical impact. The reason popularity isn't included is that prog is not really a genre that was successful in popularity. Most the songs weren't even charted.

We can look at the old thread to get ideas: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=895

1. The Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
2. Close to the Edge - Yes
3. Supper’s Ready - Genesis
4. Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
5. 21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
6. Echoes - Pink Floyd
7. 2112 - Rush
8. Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
9. Firth of Fifth - Genesis
10. Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
11. Peaches en Regalia - Frank Zappa
12. Tarkus - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
13. A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator
14. Meeting of the Spirits - Mahavishnu Orchestra
15. Nights in White Satin - Moody Blues
16. The Gates of Delirium - Yes
17. Metropolis - Dream Theater
18. Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
19. YYZ - Rush
20. Autobahn - Kraftwerk
21. Dancing with the Moonlit Knight - Genesis
22. Time - Pink Floyd
23. Starless - King Crimson
24. Script for a Jester’s Tear - Marillion
25. Nine Feet Underground - Caravan
26. Yours Is No Disgrace - Yes
27. Knots - Gentle Giant
28. L’Evoluzione - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
29. Song of Scheherazade - Renaissance
30. Larks’ Tongues in Aspic - King Crimson
31. Phaedra - Tangerine Dream
32. Heart of the Sunrise - Yes
33. Lady Fantasy - Camel
34. Appena Un Po’ - Premiata Forneria Marconi
35. La Villa Strangiato - Rush
36. In a Silent Way - Miles Davis
37. A Louse Is Not a Home - Peter Hammill
38. Epitaph - King Crimson
39. Mëkanïk Kömmandöh - Magma
40. Roundabout - Yes
41. Magnum Opus - Kansas
42. Birds of Fire - Mahavishnu Orchestra
43. Dogs - Pink Floyd
44. The Sleepwalkers - Van der Graaf Generator
45. The Musical Box - Genesis
46. Phallus Dei - Amon Düül II
47. A Change of Seasons - Dream Theater
48. Watcher of the Skies - Genesis
49. Moon in June - Soft Machine
50. In a Glass House - Gentle Giant
51. Shadow of the Hierophant - Steve Hackett
52. Stratus - Billy Cobham
53. Pull Me Under - Dream Theater
54. Zarathustra - Museo Rosenbach
55. Lemmings - Van der Graaf Generator
56. Jordrök - Änglagård
57. Halleluhwah - Can
58. Arriving Somewhere but Not Here - Porcupine Tree
59. Histoires Sans Paroles - Harmonium
60. Hocus Pocus - Focus
61. Lateralus - Tool
62. Master Builder - Gong
63. Kobaïa - Magma
64. Xanadu - Rush
65. Duel of the Jester and the Tyrant - Return to Forever
66. New World - Strawbs
67. Lunar Sea - Camel
68. Hallogallo - Neu!
69. Assault and Battery/The Golden Void - Hawkwind
70. And You and I - Yes
71. Poseidon’s Creation - Eloy
72. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres - Rush
73. One More Red Nightmare - King Crimson
74. Widow’s Peak - IQ
75. Blackwater Park - Opeth
76. Stardust We Are - Flower Kings
77. Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield
78. Hair Pie: Bake 1 & 2 - Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
79. Mumps - Hatfield and the North
80. Harvest of Souls - IQ
81. Jurassic Shift - Ozric Tentacles
82. Suite Sister Mary - Queensrÿche
83. Blackest Eyes - Porcupine Tree
84. Drip Drip - Comus
85. The Hanging Tree - Arena
86. Beyond the Pale - Pain of Salvation
87. July Morning - Uriah Heep
88. Flight Over Rio - Al Di Meola
89. Son et Lumiere/Inertiatic ESP - Mars Volta
90. The Light - Spock’s Beard
91. Opening Move - Gryphon
92. Sea Song - Robert Wyatt
93. All of the Above - Transatlantic
94. The Rainbow - Talk Talk
95. Man-Erg - Van der Graaf Generator
96. Amygdala - Henry Cow
97. Impressioni Di Settembre - Premiata Forneria Marconi
98. Último Entardecer - Bacamarte
99. Ronde - Univers Zero
100. Krautrock - Faust


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
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Like Forgotten Son had mentioned in the other topic, though on the most revolutionary prog album out there, "21st Century Schizoid Man" did not have so much influence on prog's more symphonic sound as tracks such as "Epitaph" may have. "Carry On Wayward Son" is one of the most respected prog songs.. in general rock. Not so much in prog. Plus, not much on technical uniqueness. Also lack of technical uniqueness on Kayleigh. If cultural impact was your reason for "Kayleigh"s placement, then "Comfortably Numb" should be higher. The mood has more fluctuation, so I'd even dare to say "Comfortably Numb" is more technically unique.

An otherwise great start! Here's some suggestions:
"Lady Fantasy" Camel
"Nine Feet Underground" Caravan
"Poseidon's Creation" Eloy
"Kobaïa" Magma
"MacArthur Park" Richard Harris (I'm serious..)
"The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys" Traffic
Possibly Renaissance, some Gong.. maybe "Flying Teapot?"

With a song like "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" on here, I'd want to bring up "1983... (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)" as a suggestion..


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
Like Forgotten Son had mentioned in the other topic, though on the most revolutionary prog album out there, "21st Century Schizoid Man" did not have so much influence on prog's more symphonic sound as tracks such as "Epitaph" may have.

I agree with this.
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"Carry On Wayward Son" is one of the most respected prog songs.. in general rock. Not so much in prog.

True but it did have a big influence on prog metal.

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Also lack of technical uniqueness on Kayleigh. If cultural impact was your reason for "Kayleigh"s placement, then "Comfortably Numb" should be higher. The mood has more fluctuation, so I'd even dare to say "Comfortably Numb" is more technically unique.


I agree with this too.

An otherwise great start! Here's some suggestions:
"Lady Fantasy" Camel
"Nine Feet Underground" Caravan
"Poseidon's Creation" Eloy
"Kobaïa" Magma
"MacArthur Park" Richard Harris (I'm serious..)
"The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys" Traffic
Possibly Renaissance, some Gong.. maybe "Flying Teapot?"

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With a song like "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" on here, I'd want to bring up "1983... (A Merman I Should Turn to Be)" as a suggestion..

Definitely agree with this.


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 Post subject: Re: Top 100 Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
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Well here's the first 100. What do you guys think?


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 Post subject: Re: Top 100 Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
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I think this list is looking great so far! Excellent work!! I'd love to see others put some insight on this.


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
I think this list is looking great so far! Excellent work!! I'd love to see others put some insight on this.


Same here. There was a lot of discussion going on in the old thread but for some reason everybody just stopped talking lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Top 100 Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
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Give this one time... It should get minor notoriety soon enough. I want this list to happen. Haha.


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
Give this one time... It should get minor notoriety soon enough. I want this list to happen. Haha.


Lets hope it does my friend. Do you see any mistakes anywhere?


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Hmm... Well, maybe consider technical uniqueness or emphasize the common qualities of prog more (asymmetric time, odd keys, transitions, magical/science fiction lyrics, etc.). The only "fault" (which isn't too huge of one) I'd point out is the balance of the list. King Crimson takes a spot every five ranks (10 songs in the top 50 alone). This is due to either the emphasis of influence/impact or just a lack of suggestions. Like, maybe we just skipped over some artists or songs. Also was Phish highly influencial or something? I've seen multiple songs on this list by them, yet they don't hold a spot on the Top 100 best prog bands list.


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
Hmm... Well, maybe consider technical uniqueness or emphasize the common qualities of prog more (asymmetric time, odd keys, transitions, magical/science fiction lyrics, etc.).

Are you asking me to include that in the criteria?

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The only "fault" (which isn't too huge of one) I'd point out is the balance of the list. King Crimson takes a spot every five ranks (10 songs in the top 50 alone). This is due to either the emphasis of influence/impact or just a lack of suggestions. Like, maybe we just skipped over some artists or songs.

Well on the rock songs list, you happen to see the same thing with The Beatles. They just happen to have huge influence on prog.

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Also was Phish highly influencial or something? I've seen multiple songs on this list by them, yet they don't hold a spot on the Top 100 best prog bands list.

I originally only listed three Phish songs. One of them was removed. "You Enjoy Myself" is definitely one of the most important prog tunes because it had a big influence on bringing jazzy rhythms into prog.


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Rock N Herbs wrote:
Are you asking me to include that in the criteria?

Not necessarily. I can live with that many KC songs on the list. It's just the first half of the list is flooded with them.

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Well on the rock songs list, you happen to see the same thing with The Beatles. They just happen to have huge influence on prog.

The Beatles have 6 songs in that Top 100. King Crimson has 10 in this top 50. Definitely highly influencial, but it's just a little quirk to it I don't like. If the criteria either emphasized the basic prog qualities more or technical uniqueness so that some not-so-influencial but technical songs could make the list, then it'd look better. Even with these as heavier criteria points, King Crimson would still bear the most tracks on this list. It'll just be more spread out, which would just look better. (in my opinion)

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I originally only listed three Phish songs. One of them was removed. "You Enjoy Myself" is definitely one of the most important prog tunes because it had a big influence on bringing jazzy rhythms into prog.

That album came out in 1989, and prog has been jazzy since far, far before that.


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
I originally only listed three Phish songs. One of them was removed. "You Enjoy Myself" is definitely one of the most important prog tunes because it had a big influence on bringing jazzy rhythms into prog.

That album came out in 1989, and prog has been jazzy since far, far before that.[/quote]

Yeah but Phish brought in more of a neo-jazz fussion style to prog.


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That influenced enough major 90's-til now artists to deserve #16? Higher than a song by a more influencial neo-prog band of the time such as Marillion?


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Rischay Dersonanay wrote:
That influenced enough major 90's-til now artists to deserve #16? Higher than a song by a more influencial neo-prog band of the time such as Marillion?


No, it isn't at #16 for its influence. Its there for its uniqueness. I was just answering your question about Phish being influential.


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 Post subject: Re: Top 100 Greatest Progressive Rock Songs (ACTIVE LIST)
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You know what I actually agree. They aren't influential enough to be that high. How do you guys like the new update?


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