MJ7 wrote:
1. 'Someone please explain the order of the top two based on the criteria' means you disagree with it. Talking about the words, not about what do you have in mind.
No, it meant that I wanted to know why they were in that order.
MJ7 wrote:
2. 'Besides - if you don't agree - YOU should make proper argument.'
'Saying "Hallowed" wins is not an explanation.'
You haven't read my statement or you didn't understand it. It was easy enough to get it. Reason:
'Everyone can come here and say: 'explain me why War Pigs is above Victim of Changes and then explain why Hammer Smashed Face is higher than For Whom the Bell Tolls'. And that's why conclusion comes: give me decent arguments and make good comparison if you want some changes in the list.'
You talk about a proper argument when you said things like a bunch of cover versions "proves that Hallowed formed metal"?
I guess that metal still hadn't been "formed" in 1981 when Motorhead was on top of the UK album charts?
Or that no one ever wrote a song about something other than babes and cars before Hallowed? How bout you point out all the songs about partying and getting laid on Maiden's 1st two albums? It not only wasn't a new idea. It wasn't even a new idea for Maiden. Hell, where are all those party songs on Sabbath's 1st two albums? It wasn't a new idea in 1970, let alone in 1982.
MJ7 wrote:
3. Your arguments about impact and influence were always connected with popularity. That's laziness or misunderstanding criteria.
I said they are interdependent. And I think you disregarding my argument wholesale is laziness. Maybe you explain to me how in the pre-"mp3 download" days anybody was gonna hear an album (or single) if no one was buying it? People have to hear the music before it can have any impact or influence. They can buy the record or buy the concert ticket. Where is the misunderstanding there?
MJ7 wrote:
4. 'I meant that the studio version was never released as a single and you knew what I meant.' I wasn't trying to be a dick. Your sentence was just false.
You've been a dick and a douche from the start of the discussion. So why stop now?
MJ7 wrote:
5. 'Giving a four' to HBTN (popularity) wasn't also clever.
It's my opinion and IMO it's being generous.
MJ7 wrote:
6. 'I didn't say that HBTN was more progressive, darker than any song created earlier or it had the first lyrics about life and death in metal'. One of your posts contained only pointless arguments against this sentence (without understanding it).
No, you said HBTN formed metal. You said it was the started a new idea of not writing brainless tunes about chicks and fast cars. You said that it single-handedly influenced black, death, prog, doom, symphonic, etc because it had bells, tempo changes and a balance of fast & hard w/ slow & soft. All those things were probably new ideas in 1982 as well, right?
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