Can someone explain impact of early BS songs? If impact means short term then there were not that many metal bands which were 'impacted' by BS and all of early BS importance lays in influence. Am I right?

"So much emphasis". There are three criteria (which someone else set). By my estimation that makes it 1/3 of the rating. If you think there is too much emphasis on popularity, get the criteria changed.

Only if you buy into the idea, that Black Sabbath was all by themselves as the lone "metal" band until the NWOBHM came along.

Scorpions, Budgie, JP and Rainbow are also considered metal and they're not NWoBHM.

So you define impact and influence as being a clone of the original band?

No, I'm proving you that BS was not alone in 70s or before NWoBHM as you said.

Your last post was made only to start some kind of flame war or?

List is HUGELY updated. Added some essential songs, removed some extreme metal, didn't care that much about 'top 10 songs from metal artists' etc. I hope you'll like it.

Who cares? The McRib is back!

.. or it could be Paranoid by Grand Funk Railway ... Take care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rppsj-8KQEo

You aren't proving anything to me. I have had many posters from this forum tell me that "metal" started in 79-80 with the NWOBHM. But when I asked why it was called the new wave if there wasn't an original wave that came before it, they never seemed to have an answer.

The impact of Black Sabbath and of Paranoid and of "Paranoid" was that it showed that a band could play that kind of heavy music in 1970 and have major commerical success with it --- on their own terms.

No, you're wrong (again). Every Heavy Metal band of the 70s, including their contemporaries and those that came before, were impacted by Sabbath.

Sorry if you feel owned.

You're repeating my arguments from my big comparison. I'm glad you learned something.



Early Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer or Ozzy Osbourne impacted more bands than early BS, that's what I was trying to say in my statement.
I will recommend Enderton, H. A Mathematical Introduction to Logic. 2nd edition. San Diego, Cal: Academic Press 2001. Just for you. I'm not talking about this particular situation. I'm summarizing few pages of our discussion.



Any comments about the list from other users? I modified it a bit, so I was expecting bigger debate

Why was this sent as a private message? Why was this not in the forum? What is it that you don't want the rest of the readers to know?

And what is up with "kid"? What is that all about? You think you know me?

Sent before seeing post here.

You want me to read a book on logic? How bout you pick up a copy of "English as a First Language"?

Lemmy just start over. I said at the beginning that I wasn't trying to get this list changed. I know better.

For Example, I think songs like these belong on the list:

"Dazed and Confused" by Led Zeppelin
"Gypsy" by Uriah Heep
"Achilles Last Stand" by Zep

If I thought they had a snowball's chance of getting on, I would have suggested it earlier. "Those bands aren't metal, dude". What about the songs? "The bands have to be troo and kvlt for their song to be considered"

This list isn't the real problem. It's my mistake to even bother here. The problem starts with the 100 greatest metal bands list.