why is that not arguable? why couldn't KRS-One be in that group?
I agree actually. I think his stuff with BDP was very important and original. But Nas seems to be worshipped by every hip hop fan here on ddd. They're close either way. Personally I'd RATHER see KRS there myself.
why is Kool G Rap a lock?
Seriously? This dude was taking everything to the next level. He was one of the very first to explore complex multi-syllable rhyming, and his stature within the pantheon of rap MC'ing is just immense. Everyone was influenced by this guy.
this is what's happening to Jay Z. he is consistently in the spotlight with every album, every track, etc. every time he has a weak line or verse, we know about it. he's got 15 years of consistent work with only a few breaks. of course he's got some weak stuff in there. but so does everyone, with the only exceptions being emcees who had short careers. the difference is, when Mos Def or Nas puts out something not-so-great (and they both have, in abundance), we just ignore it cause its not in our face or on the radio constantly.
The thing is, though, guys like Mos Def and KRS were much more important to the craft. Of course nobody is saying that Jay is the only rapper with weak material in his catalogue, that would be ridiculous. But the point was that he had potential to be REALLY fuggin' great, but instead he just went more and more mainstream rather than push himself artistically to elevate his style.
That's entirely IMO though.
Jay is consistently mentioned by other rappers as a top emcee (including Kool G Rap. flow is a huge part of what an emcee does. its not just lyrics. and Jay is the epitome of flow.
I don't think Jay is the epitome of anything, but chalk it up to personal interpretation I guess.
my biggest gripe with this list is that it focuses way too much on complex rhymes and shows no appreciation of lyrical content or flow. how else could 2Pac be so low? or Chuck D? this has to be the only emcee list in the history of rap to have 2Pac out of the top 10. whatever criteria supports that is a bad criteria.
Now THIS I agree with and I've been saying it for a long time now.
Chuck was soooooo important to the game.
my opinion (which is always changing)
top 5 candidates: Rakim, Notorious B.I.G., Big Daddy Kane, Nas, Jay Z, 2Pac, KRS-One
top 10 candidates: Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Andre 3000, Scarface, LL Cool J
rest of the top 20: Eminem, Chuck D, Redman, GZA, Common, Big Pun, Mos Def, Ice Cube
You really think Nas is a greater lyricist than G Rap?