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Which album should be #1?
The Marshall Mathers LP 75%  75%  [ 24 ]
Stankonia 25%  25%  [ 8 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:58 am 
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Other two suggestions:

Confessions on a Dance Floor (Madonna): Score very well in Musical Impact and Popularity, with ten million copies sold. Number one in 40 countries, earning a place in the 2007 Guinness Book of World Records as the album topping the charts in most countries.

Invincible (Michael Jackson): Number one in eleven territories worldwide, charted within the top ten in six other territories. 13-15 milion copies sold.

pave, would you consider LCD Soundsystem? They have two albums that could easily make the list - "LCD Soundsystem" and "Sound of Silver".

And another question, you want to expand the list to 200?


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Bruno_Antonio wrote:
Other two suggestions:

Confessions on a Dance Floor (Madonna): Score very well in Musical Impact and Popularity, with ten million copies sold. Number one in 40 countries, earning a place in the 2007 Guinness Book of World Records as the album topping the charts in most countries.

Invincible (Michael Jackson): Number one in eleven territories worldwide, charted within the top ten in six other territories. 13-15 milion copies sold.


both are being considered. what hurts Invincible is that it came out to a lot of negative attention and never really got any love until he died and his work was re-evaluated (even then, it is still not considered anywhere near his earlier work). he was in the middle of a dispute with his record label, rushed some of the songs, didn't promote it with a tour, etc. it still sold very well because, well, its Michael Jackson. but it failed to do much else besides that. no real musical impact or influence (he didn't really do anything new on it, just fell back on the old formula).

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pave, would you consider LCD Soundsystem? They have two albums that could easily make the list - "LCD Soundsystem" and "Sound of Silver".


they will definitely be considered. but remember, critical acclaim is not part of this criteria. musical impact is, and sometimes (only sometimes) they are connected. certainly LCD has some musical impact. but its also somewhat limited.

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And another question, you want to expand the list to 200?


possibly. when we get to 100, we will see if there are albums that seem too great to leave off. right now, some of the albums listed on here don't really need to be on a "greatest" list to begin with.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:44 pm 
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And it could be that you'll want to extend it beyond 100, but 200 will be further than you want to go, so you could go for 150 or 120 or whatever.

DDD currently has top 10 lists for 2008 and 2009, which I'll list below. I'm just putting them out there for consideration. These albums don't have to be included on the list or put in the same order as they are here. I think Lew will want the top 10 by year lists to match the decade list, so pave, when you finish your update, the top 10 by year lists will probably be revised to match the decade list.

2008
1. The Fame - Lady Gaga
2. Tha Carter, Vol. III - Lil Wayne
3. Only by the Night - Kings of Leon
4. Viva La Vida - Coldplay
5. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
6. The Seldom Seen Kid - Elbow
7. 808s & Heartbreak - Kanye West
8. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
9. Paper Trail - T.I.
10. Death Magnetic - Metallica

2009
1. Florence + the Machine - Lungs
2. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
3. Jay-Z - The Blueprint 3
4. Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D.
5. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
6. Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night
7. U2 - No Line on the Horizon
8. Mumford & Sons - Sigh No More
9. The xx - XX
10. Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
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gminer wrote:
...just trivia for the US ... the best charting albums for the decade 2000 - 2009 .... Take care

1 Guns N' Roses - Greatest Hits
2 Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
3 Nickelback - All The Right Reasons
4 Taylor Swift - Taylor Swift
5 Carrie Underwood - Some Hearts
6 The Beatles - 1
7 Michael Buble - It's Time
8 Linkin Park - [Hybrid Theory]
9 Tim McGraw - Greatest Hits
10 Rascal Flatts - Feels Like Today
11 Evanescence - Fallen
12 Daughtry - Daughtry
13 Keith Urban - Golden Road
14 Kelly Clarkson - Breakaway
15 Coldplay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head
16 Bob Marley And The Wailers - Legend
17 Soundtrack - O Brother, Where Art Thou?
18 Sugarland - Enjoy The Ride
19 Josh Groban - Josh Groban
20 Keith Urban - Be Here
21 Maroon5 - Songs About Jane
22 Soundtrack - High School Musical
23 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon
24 Rascal Flatts - Me And My Gang
25 Linkin Park - Meteora
26 Fergie [US] - The Dutchess
27 John Mayer - Room For Squares
28 Kenny Chesney - No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problems
29 Kid Rock - Rock N Roll Jesus
30 Creed - Human Clay
31 Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk
32 Rihanna - Good Girl Gone Bad
33 Journey - Journey's Greatest Hits
34 Nelly - Country Grammar
35 Josh Groban - Closer
36 Linkin Park - Minutes To Midnight
37 Kid Rock - Cocky
38 Enya - A Day Without Rain
39 Dixie Chicks - Fly
40 Green Day - American Idiot
41 Carrie Underwood - Carnival Ride
42 AC/DC - Back In Black
43 Toby Keith - Unleashed
44 Bob Seger And The Silver Bullet Band - Greatest Hits
45 Gretchen Wilson - Here For The Party
46 The Beach Boys - The Very Best Of The Beach Boys: Sounds Of Summer
47 The Pussycat Dolls - PCD
48 Soundtrack - Coyote Ugly
49 3 Doors Down - Away From The Sun
50 Faith Hill - Breathe
51 Eminem - The Eminem Show
52 The Killers - Hot Fuss
53 Beyoncé Knowles - Dangerously In Love
54 Avril Lavigne - Let Go
55 Pink - Missundaztood
56 Usher - Confessions
57 Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
58 Puddle Of Mudd - Come Clean
59 Brad Paisley - Time Well Wasted
60 Kenny Chesney - When The Sun Goes Down
61 Michael Jackson - Number Ones
62 50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
63 Martina McBride - Greatest Hits
64 Shania Twain - Up!
65 Hannah Montana - Hannah Montana
66 Michael Buble - Call Me Irresponsible
67 Good Charlotte - The Young And The Hopeless
68 Jason Mraz - We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.
69 John Mayer - Continuum
70 3 Doors Down - The Better Life
71 Alicia Keys - The Diary Of Alicia Keys
72 Audioslave - Audioslave
73 System Of A Down - Toxicity
74 Three Days Grace - One - X
75 Jack Johnson - In Between Dreams
76 Taylor Swift - Fearless
77 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
78 'n Sync - No Strings Attached
79 Big & Rich - Horse Of A Different Color
80 Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz - Kings Of Crunk
81 Lady Antebellum - Lady Antebellum
82 Switchfoot - The Beautiful Letdown
83 Sugarland - Twice The Speed Of Life
84 2000 Disturbed - The Sickness
85 Rascal Flatts - Melt
86 Hinder - Extreme Behavior
87 Paramore - RIOT!
88 Amy Winehouse - Back To Black
89 Destiny's Child - The Writing's On The Wall
90 The All-American Rejects - Move Along
91 The Fray - How To Save A Life
92 Kenny Chesney - Greatest Hits
93 Sugarland - Love On The Inside: Deluxe Fan Edition
94 Jonas Brothers - Jonas Brothers
95 Gwen Stefani - Love. Angel. Music. Baby
96 Toby Keith - Greatest Hits 2
97 Josh Turner - Your Man
98 Mariah Carey - The Emancipation Of Mimi
99 Dr Dre - Dr Dre 2001
100 Colbie Caillat - Coco

The word to describe this list is... AH!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Quote:
1. The Marshall Mathers LP (2000) - Eminem
2. Stankonia (2000) - OutKast
3. The College Dropout (2004) - Kanye West
4. The Blueprint (2001) - Jay-Z
5. Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003) - OutKast
6. Kid A (2000) - Radiohead
7. American Idiot (2004) - Green Day

Seems right to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
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This list needs to be updated. Rob is still around I think but I don't know whether he is working on it.


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Neat.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
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In Rainbows should be top 30, as should Funeral


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
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Stavros678 wrote:
In Rainbows should be top 30, as should Funeral


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Rock Albums of the 00s
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I don't know if In Rainbows has the cultural (read: industry) impact yet that would warrant that area. There were certainly greater Radiohead albums.


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Ace of Spades wrote:
I don't know if In Rainbows has the cultural (read: industry) impact yet that would warrant that area. There were certainly greater Radiohead albums.

I'd say it should be their second entry after "Kid A".


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ok i got sidetracked from this edit but its happening. i want some input though on the top 4. we got into this mindset that Stankonia was an automatic choice for number 2 if MMLP took number 1, and i'm not sure that's entirely fair to The Blueprint or College Dropout. i'm kinda leaning towards Blueprint > Stankonia > College Dropout as 2-4.


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"Stankonia" has bigger sales than TBp or TCD according to the RIAA. You said wanted to distance yourself from acclaimedmusic rankings but "Stankonia" is the highest ranked album of the top 4 nonetheless (not much of a difference all in all though).

Popularity:
1. The Marshall Mathers LP
2. Stankonia
3. The College Dropout (more popular than TBp outside the US)
4. The Blueprint

Acclaim:
Not much of a difference between the four, all are immensely acclaimed.

Influence:
Dunno.


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I'd say Stankonia is probably the most influential of those, for popularizing the Southern hip hop scene to a degree.


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