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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:51 pm 
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I'll go further now than I did before and say that I think XX should probably replace Green Day on the proposed '09 list. I think XX and Lily Allen could be in either order at 9 & 10.


Yes, the XX album was highly acclaimed and did very well in sales internationally. So here's the list you're looking at now:
1. Florence + the Machine - Lungs
2. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
3. Jay-Z - The Blueprint 3
4. Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D.
5. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
6. Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night
7. U2 - No Line on the Horizon
8. Mumford & Sons - Sigh No More
9. The xx - XX
10. Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:04 pm 
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That looks good to me. It's too bad pave is away right now; I'd be interested in his thoughts on the list.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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I used pipers top 10.

And added links on the Music Lists page to all the Top 10 Albums lists.

http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-2000-2009.html
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-1990-1999.html
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-1980-1989.html
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-1970-1979.html
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-1960-1969.html
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-top-tens-1956-1959.html


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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Shouldn't Bob Dylan's "Love and Theft" be in the top ten for 2001?


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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I would think L&T deserves a spot more than Gorillaz.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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How is Kid A not number one in the year 2000??? That's a crime right there.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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Kid A by Radiohead should be #1 for 2000
Is This It by The Strokes should be #1 for 2001
Funeral by Arcade Fire should be #1 in 2004

in my opinion :D


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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BayPineapple wrote:
Kid A by Radiohead should be #1 for 2000
Is This It by The Strokes should be #1 for 2001
Funeral by Arcade Fire should be #1 in 2004

in my opinion :D

Agree!

Or maybe The Marshall Mathers LP could be #1 for 2000. But not Stankonia.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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are we not considering discovery by digital love to be a rock album?


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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Johnny wrote:
BayPineapple wrote:
Kid A by Radiohead should be #1 for 2000
Is This It by The Strokes should be #1 for 2001
Funeral by Arcade Fire should be #1 in 2004

in my opinion :D

Agree!

Or maybe The Marshall Mathers LP could be #1 for 2000. But not Stankonia.


Did you two look at the criteria? I agree with Johnny about Marshall Mathers ahead of Stankonia, but agree with the list about having both ahead of Kid A. The popularity advantage those 2 have would seem to be too large to be made up for by whatever small advantage Kid A might have in other parts of the criteria. Keeping that in mind, Jay-Z over the Strokes and Green Day and Kanye over Arcade Fire are also understandable.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:15 pm 
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Brian wrote:
Johnny wrote:
BayPineapple wrote:
Kid A by Radiohead should be #1 for 2000
Is This It by The Strokes should be #1 for 2001
Funeral by Arcade Fire should be #1 in 2004

in my opinion :D

Agree!

Or maybe The Marshall Mathers LP could be #1 for 2000. But not Stankonia.


Did you two look at the criteria? I agree with Johnny about Marshall Mathers ahead of Stankonia, but agree with the list about having both ahead of Kid A. The popularity advantage those 2 have would seem to be too large to be made up for by whatever small advantage Kid A might have in other parts of the criteria. Keeping that in mind, Jay-Z over the Strokes and Green Day and Kanye over Arcade Fire are also understandable.


>Isn't aware that Kid A is continuously named the best album of the 2000's
>Names artists instead of individual albums as his argument


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:11 pm 
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Brian wrote:
Johnny wrote:
BayPineapple wrote:
Kid A by Radiohead should be #1 for 2000
Is This It by The Strokes should be #1 for 2001
Funeral by Arcade Fire should be #1 in 2004

in my opinion :D

Agree!

Or maybe The Marshall Mathers LP could be #1 for 2000. But not Stankonia.


Did you two look at the criteria? I agree with Johnny about Marshall Mathers ahead of Stankonia, but agree with the list about having both ahead of Kid A. The popularity advantage those 2 have would seem to be too large to be made up for by whatever small advantage Kid A might have in other parts of the criteria. Keeping that in mind, Jay-Z over the Strokes and Green Day and Kanye over Arcade Fire are also understandable.

I realized the criteria while writing the post, and that is why I put Marshall Mathers LP as my preference for #1. At least in popularity (immediate and lasting) and impact Marshall Mathers LP kicks ass. I don't know about influence or originality, but I think they could at least be tied there.

In 2001 I don't know exactly why would The Blueprint be above The Strokes. In acclaim they are pretty much tied and considered some of the best albums the decade has to offer. They are both popular albums, almost equally, too (if we talk in terms of sales). Blueprint is only x2 Platinum in the US and x1 Platinum in Canada and Gold in UK. Is This It is x1 Platinum in US, UK, Canada and Australia. So that is pretty much a tie. I don't know how influential Jay-Z is, but The Strokes were a huge act in the sound of '00s rock music, specially the Alt. Rock scene. So I still believe Is This It > Blueprint

In 2004 I can understand Funeral not being #1, but that doesn't mean it's ok for it to be #6. For example it should be above Smile and Franz Ferdinand. I think it should be #4 at least. And I don't know if this has been discussed, but i think 'Hot Fuss' by The Killers could make a serious case to get a spot somewhere. But I don't really know. I'll have to think more about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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I do admit, The Marshall Mathers LP is an excellent album, and is deserving of number two. However, Kid A is more influential because it's influence expands over a variety of genres.

It was also a number one album, was nominated for a few grammy awards, and has been consistently named the best album of the 2000's.

Also, American Idiot is an overrated album. I can see The College Dropout being ahead of Funeral, but American Idiot should not be number one.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten Rock Albums Of Each Year - 2000-2009
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BayPineapple wrote:
I do admit, The Marshall Mathers LP is an excellent album, and is deserving of number two. However, Kid A is more influential because it's influence expands over a variety of genres.

It was also a number one album, was nominated for a few grammy awards, and has been consistently named the best album of the 2000's.

Also, American Idiot is an overrated album. I can see The College Dropout being ahead of Funeral, but American Idiot should not be number one.

What Marshall Mathers LP doesn't have in absolute critical acclaim is compensated by its overwhelming popularity. Not only for sales but its appearence in popular culture, how even after 10+ years it remains a very popular record and is appealing not only to rap fans, but also to pop fans, rock fans, etc. Maybe Radiohead is really influential in music circles, but MMLP's impact is way bigger. It was also nominated for Grammy awards and won one. It's also featured consistently as the best rap album of the 2000's and one of the best rap albums of all time, and gave enough popularity to someone who can now be considered the biggest worldwide musician/artist.


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