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 Post subject: Greatest Really Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:31 am 
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CRITERIA - Songs must be 10 minutes or longer. This means on their original release either on an album, EP or a single - remixes do not count. Songs were chosen and ranked based on initial and lasting popularity, acclaim and influence. Live versions of songs that were less than 10 minutes when done first in the studio were only included if they became significant in their own right. Songs that reached 10 minutes only because of an extended jam at the end will receive less credit than songs that legitimitely exceeded 10 minutes without an extended jam. Also, songs that were edited down into a shorter version will lose some credit.


1. Rapper's Delight - Sugarhill Gang (15:00)
2. Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine - James Brown (10:48)
3. Papa Was A Rollin' Stone - Temptations (11:45)
4. The End - Doors (11:35)
5. Desolation Row - Bob Dylan (11:18)
6. Love To Love You Baby - Donna Summer (16:50)
7. Autobahn - Kraftwerk (22:30)
8. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly (17:05)
9. Time Has Come Today - Chambers Brothers (11:06)
10. Sister Ray - Velvet Underground (17:00)
11. Walk On By - Isaac Hayes (12:00)
12. Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd (25:52)
13. Maggot Brain - Funkadelic (10:10)
14. Child In Time - Deep Purple (10:15)
15. By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Isaac Hayes (18:40)
16. Disco Inferno - Trammps (10:52)
17. Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield (48:50)
18. Frankie Teardrop - Suicide (10:25)
19. Moonchild - King Crimson (12:03)
20. When The Music's Over - Doors (11:00)
21. Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (10:04)
22. Close To The Edge - Yes (18:12)
23. Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull (43:50)
24. I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf (12:01)
25. Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands - Bob Dylan (11:19)
26. Do I Do - Stevie Wonder (10:27)
27. Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst - Kendrick Lamar (12:03)
28. And You and I - Yes (10:40)
29. Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd (11:30)
30. Do You Feel Like We Do (live) - Peter Frampton (14:15)
31. Halleluhwah - Can (18:32)
32. Achilles Last Stand - Led Zeppelin (10:26)
33. Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding - Elton John (11:08)
34. Alice's Restaurant Massacree - Arlo Guthrie (18:20)
35. I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad (10:03)
36. Cowgirl in the Sand - Neil Young with Crazy Horse (10:03)
37. I Stand Accused - Isaac Hayes (11:30)
38. (Not Just) Knee Deep - Funkadelic (15:21)
39. Voodoo Chile - Jimi Hendrix Experience (14:58)
40. Echoes - Pink Floyd (23:31)
41. Station to Station - David Bowie (10:08)
42. Love in C Minor - Cerrone (16:08)
43. Bug in the Bassbin - Innerzone Orchestra (10:34)
44. I Heard It Through the Grapevine - Creedence Clearwater Revival (11:05)
45. 2112 - Rush (20:35)
46. Blue Room - The Orb (39:58)
47. My Ding-A-Ling - Chuck Berry (11:52)
48. Welcome to the Pleasuredome - Frankie Goes to Hollywood (13:39)
49. Gypsy Man - War (11:35)
50. East West - The Butterfield Blues Band (13:10)
51. B-Boy Bouillabaisse - Beastie Boys (12:33)
52. Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (29:32)
53. Sex Machine - Sly and the Family Stone (13:48)
54. In/Flux - DJ Shadow (12:12)
55. Get Ready - Rare Earth (21:30)
56. The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys - Traffic (12:10)
57. Machine Gun (live) - Jimi Hendrix (12:38)
58. Supper's Ready - Genesis (22:57)
59. Three Days - Jane's Addiction (10:50)
60. Whipping Post (live) - Allman Brothers Band (22:40)
61. Spoonful (live) - Cream (16:45)
62. Svefn-g-englar - Sigur Rós (10:06)
63. Superappin' - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (12:03)
64. Hallogallo - Neu! (10:07)
65. Dogs - Pink Floyd (17:03)
66. Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield (36:31)
67. Starless - King Crimson (12:16)
68. Chime - Orbital (12:39)
69. Tarkus - Emerson, Lake & Palmer (20:42)
70. Goin' Home - Rolling Stones (11:35)
71. Phaedra - Tangerine Dream (17:42)
72. Supernature - Cerrone (10:20)
73. 1983... (A Merman I Should Turn to Be) - Jimi Hendrix Experience (13:09)
74. Lizard - King Crimson (23:23)
75. Acid Tracks - Phuture (11:17)
76. In My Time of Dying - Led Zeppelin (11:08)
77. Joey - Bob Dylan (11:05)
78. Throw - Paperclip People (10:16)
79. Trilogy - Sonic Youth (14:05)
80. The Crown (Vocal) - Gary Byrd & the G.B. Experience (10:35)
81. Dark & Long (Dark Train) - Underworld (10:28)
82. Heart of the Sunrise - Yes (10:34)
83. Water - The Roots (10:24)
84. A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld - The Orb (18:49)
85. Last Call - Kanye West (12:40)
86. This Corrosion - The Sisters of Mercy (10:55)
87. Djed - Tortoise (20:53)
88. "B" Movie - Gil Scott-Heron (12:04)
89. Listen to the Lion - Van Morrison (11:07)
90. We Will Fall - Stooges (10:15)
91. Dark Star (live) - Grateful Dead (23:15)
92. Emily - Joanna Newsom (12:08)
93. Come Together - Primal Scream (10:19 - 10:22)****
94. Mountain Jam (live) - Allman Brothers Band (19:37)
95. Phallus Dei - Amon Düül II (20:45)
96. Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd (23:44)
97. Warning - Black Sabbath (10:32)
98. Beat Bop - Rammellzee vs. K-Rob (10:08)
99. Street Hassle - Lou Reed (11:00)
100. Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Iron Maiden (13:36)

**** - Times differed on releases in various countries.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:46 am 
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1983... (A Merman I Should Turn to Be) - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
2112 - Rush
Achilles Last Stand - Led Zeppelin
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
Baker St. Muse - Jethro Tull
Coma - Guns N' Roses
Do Your Thing - Isaac Hayes
Dogs - Pink Floyd
Echoes - Pink Floyd
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
Highlands - Bob Dylan
I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Marquee Moon - Television
My Generation (live) - The Who
Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith Group
Season of the Witch - Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills
Sister Ray - The Velvet Underground
Spoonful (live) - Cream
Station to Station - David Bowie
Tarkus - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
Toad (live) - Cream
Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
Trilogy - Sonic Youth
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Voodoo Chile - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
We Will Fall - The Stooges
Whipping Post (live) - The Allman Brothers Band


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:35 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:43 am 
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You're welcome. I'll try to think of more.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:37 am 
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I think in the criteria you're going to have to establish some sort of rule that excludes live versions (unless maybe the live version was released AS a single over ten minutes long). Otherwise the list is going to be nothing more than extended live workouts.

Secondly, if you do confine it to studio tracks and since most songs of that length aren't released as singles unless edited down to shorter times, these are going to be mostly album cuts which means any criteria is going to be far more random and subjective than if they were singles and you at least had chart positioning to use as a starting point for objective comparison. Furthermore, since you're not an album guy by any means, won't this be kind of out of your area of expertise?

That said, here are some mandatory inclusions:

Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar (really high, I mean REALLY high. Like Top Five for acclaim alone)
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic (another really high one, Top 10 or 15)
Three Days - Jane's Addiction
The Return To Innocence Lost - The Roots
Water - The Roots
Sex Machine - Sly & The Family Stone
East-West - Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Super Rappin - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
Flash To The Beat - Grandmaster Flash
Gypsy Man - War
Nothing But Time - Cat Power
False Echoes (Havana 1921) - Jimmy Buffett
240 Years Before Your Time - The Black Keys

Then you have to figure out what to do about medleys. Quicksilver Messenger Service had a lot, notably their take on Bo Diddley's "Who Do You Love?", though they split it into sections each with its own title, but of course it was just the one song. Sly & The Family Stone had a song actually called "Dance To Medley". The Beastie Boys had the famed track "B-Boy Bouillabaisse" that was a bunch of different things and obviously The Beatles with Side Two of Abbey Road, though those were all individually titled.

Then on top of all of that you have the issue of extended 12" mixes, particularly for disco and early rap, that were legitimate releases but not found on albums, so discovering which of those exist and deciding how to figure them becomes an added problem.

Finally, a lot of songs that everyone would think of fall just short, sometimes by mere seconds (Bruce Springsteen ""New York City Serenade", Kool & The Gang's "Wild And Peaceful", Bauhaus's "Bela Lugosi's Dead", Patti Smith's "Land", Curtis Mayfield's "Don't Worry If There's A Hell Below We're All Going To Go", !!!'s "Me And Guiliani Down By The Schoolyard", Guns N' Roses "Estranged", Funkadelic's "Wars Of Armageddon" are all over 9 minutes, so the ten minute cut off, while it makes sense and you HAVE to cut it off somewhere, might actually make the list kinda weak.

I don't know... good luck with it, but this might be one of those lists where after studying it awhile you think better of it. I've done that myself a bunch of times.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:22 pm 
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Sampson wrote:
good luck with it


Thanks for your imput. How's the Sax list coming?

I'm only gonna include live versions where that live version became as popular or close to as popular as the studio version, like "Free Bird" and a few others.

There's already a Rock Epics list that includes the songs that are 8-9 minutes long. Tjis will get a lot of other things listed that have never been mentioned on any DDD lists before.

As for being out of my area of expertise, I have asked Henrik from AM to be my partner on the list. If he says no I will ask someone else from their forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Really Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
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These I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Albatross - Public Image Ltd.
Aumgn - Can
Autobahn - Kraftwerk
Bro's - Panda Bear
Child in Time (live) - Deep Purple
Come Together - Primal Scream
Cop Shoot Cop... - Spiritualized
Dark Star (live) - Grateful Dead
Death Don't Have No Mercy (live) - Grateful Dead
Djed - Tortoise
Emily - Joanna Newsom
Frankie Teardrop - Suicide
Goin' Home - The Rolling Stones
Good Girl/Carrots - Panda Bear
The Gumbo Variations - Frank Zappa
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
In My Time of Dying - Led Zeppelin
Joey - Bob Dylan
Last Call - Kanye West
Lazy (live) - Deep Purple
Lost Someone (live) - James Brown
Moonchild - King Crimson
Only Skin - Joanna Newsom
Out of the Blue - George Harrison
Peking O - Can
Promentalshitbackwashpsychosis Enema Squad (The Doo Doo Chasers) - Funkadelic
Rapper's Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Reoccurring Dreams - Hüsker Dü
The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet - The Mothers of Invention
A Sailor's Life - Fairport Convention
Space Truckin' (live) - Deep Purple
Svefn-g-englar - Sigur Rós
Too Long - Daft Punk
Turn On Your Love Light (live) - Grateful Dead
Viðrar vel til loftárása - Sigur Rós
Warning - Black Sabbath
You Don't Love Me (live) - The Allman Brothers Band


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Really Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:01 pm 
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Here's what I have so far:

(Not Just) Knee Deep - Funkadelic
1983... (A Merman) I Should Turn to Be) - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
2112 - Rush
240 Years Before Your Time - The Black Keys
Achilles Last Stand - Led Zeppelin
Albatross - Public Image Ltd.
Alice's Restaurant Massacree - Arlo Guthrie
Almost Independence Day - Van Morrison
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van Der Graaf Generator
A Rainbow in Curved Air - Terry Riley
A Sailor's Life - Fairport Convention
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
Aumgn - Can
Autobahn - Kraftwerk
Baker St. Muse - Jethro Tull
Bay of Pigs - Destroyer
Bayreuth Return - Klaus Schulze
B-Boys Bouillabaisse - Beastie Boys
Bésame Mucho - El Rifle y los de Abajo
Bro's - Panda Bear
Brother of Mine - Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe
Brownsville Girl - Bob Dylan
By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Isaac Hayes
Carouselambra - Led Zeppelin
Chameleon - Herbie Hancock
Child In Time - Deep Purple
Cicatriz Esp - The Mars Volta
Close To The Edge - Yes
Coma - Guns N' Roses
Come Together - Primal Scream
Cop Shoot Cop... - Spiritualized
Cowgirl In The Sand - Neil Young
Dark Star (live) - Grateful Dead
Death Don't Have No Mercy (live) - Grateful Dead
Desolation Row - Bob Dylan
Disco Inferno - Trammps
Djed - Tortoise
Dogs - Pink Floyd
Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (James Brown)
Do You Feel Like We Do (Live) - Peter Frampton
Do Your Thing - Isaac Hayes
Driftin' Back- Neil Young
East-West - Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Echoes - Pink Floyd
Edge of Sanity - Crimson
Emily - Joanna Newsom
Escape-ism - James Brown
False Echoes (Havana 1921) - Jimmy Buffett
Farewell To Hypocrites - Shinki Chen
Flash To The Beat - Grandmaster Flash
Fool's Overture - Supertramp
Frankie Teardrop - Suicide
Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding - Elton John
Get Ready - Rare Earth
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
Goin' Home - The Rolling Stones
Good Girl/Carrots - Panda Bear
Gypsy Man - War
Gypsy Woman- Tim Buckley
Halleluwah - Can
Hallogallo - Neu
Heart Of The Sunrise - Yes
Herod - DJed and Mogwai
Highlands - Bob Dylan
I Can See the Song in Last December - Roberta Flack
I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Creedence Clearwater Revival
I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
In My Time of Dying - Led Zeppelin
I Stand Accused - Isaac Hayes
Jah Is No Secret - Ijahman
Jenny Ondioline - Stereolab
Joey - Bob Dylan
Jordrök - Änglagård
Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kung Bore - Änglagård
L'amico Suicida - Biglietto per l'Inferno
Last Call - Kanye West
Lazy (live) - Deep Purple
L'Evoluzione - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Listen to the Lion - Van Morrison
Llegó el día - Triana
Lizard - King Crimson
Lost - Van Der Graaf Generator
Lost Someone (Live) - James Brown
Love - Morgen
Love and Only Love - Neil Young
Love From Room 109 At the Islander - Tim Buckley
Love to Burn - Neil Young
Love To Love You Baby - Donna Summer
L'Via L'Viaquez - The Mars Volta
Machine Messiah - Yes:
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Marquee Moon - Television
Mogwai Fear Satan - Mogwai
Moonchild - King Crimson
Mother Sky - Can
Nine feet underground - Caravan
Nothing But Time - Cat Power
Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield
One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley's Boyfriend) - Wilco
Only Skin - Joanna Newsom
Out of the Blue - George Harrison
Peking O - Can
Phallus Dei - Amon Duul II
Promentalshitbackwashpsychosis Enema Squad (The Doo Doo Chasers) - Funkadelic
Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith Group
Ramada Inn - Neil Young
Rapper's Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Reoccurring Dreams - Hüsker Dü
River - Red House Painters
Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands - Bob Dylan
Season of the Witch - Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills
Seventy Two Nations - Dadawah
Sex Machine - Sly & The Family Stone
Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Silly Love Songs - Red House Painters
Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar
Sinnerman - Nina Simone
Sister Ray - The Velvet Underground
Slightly All the Time - Soft Machine
Space Truckin' (live) - Deep Purple
Spoonful (live) - Cream
Starless - King Crimson
Station to Station - David Bowie
Storm - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Summertime in England - Van Morrison
Super Rappin - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Svefn G Englar - Sigur Ros
Take A Pebble - Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Tarkus - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
Tempest - Bob Dylan
The Crown - Gary Byrd
The Diamond Sea – Sonic Youth
The End - Doors
The Gumbo Variations - Frank Zappa
The Musical Box - Genesis
The Past is a Grotesque Animal - Of Montreal
The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet - The Mothers of Invention
The Return To Innocence Lost - The Roots
The Revealing Science of God - Dance of the Dawn
The Sleepwalkers - Van Der Graaf Generator
Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull
Three Days - Jane's Addiction
Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
Toad (live) - Cream
Too Long - Daft Punk
Tortoise Mogwai Fear Satan - DJed and Mogwai
Trilogy - Sonic Youth
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Turn On Your Love Light (live) - Grateful Dead
Ur Vilande - Änglagård
Viðrar vel til loftárása - Sigur Rós
Voodoo Chile - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Walk Like a Giant - Neil Young
Walk On By - Isaac Hayes
Warning - Black Sabbath
Water - The Roots
We Will Fall - The Stooges
When The Music's Over - Doors
Whipping Post (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
You And I - Yes
Yoo Doo Right - Can
You Don't Love Me (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
Youth of America - Wipers


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 Post subject: Re: Greatest Real Long (At Least 10 Minutes) Rock Songs
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Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar (really high, I mean REALLY high. Like Top Five for acclaim alone)


Where are you alledging this acclaim from?

It's not listed at all at acclaimedmusic.net.


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CRITERIA - Songs must be 10 minutes or longer. This means on their original release either on an album, EP or a single - remixes do not count. Songs were chosen and ranked based on initial and lasting popularity, acclaim and influence. Live versions of songs that were less than 10 minutes when done first in the studio were only included if they became significant in their own right. Songs that reached 10 minutes only because of an extended jam at the end will receive less credit than songs that legitimitely exceeded 10 minutes without an extended jam. Also, songs that were edited down into a shorter version will lose some credit.


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Yeah, I don't know that this doesn't overlap too much with the Epics list.

Two other ideas that do come to mind: the album version of Rare Earth's "Get Ready" is endless. And there's an old-school rap record of note called "The Crown" by Gary Byrd which is over ten.


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Yeah, I don't know that this doesn't overlap too much with the Epics list.


If you read the criteria of that list the songs have to have time changes and shit to be eligible for that list. That lets out things like "Rapper's Delight" and "Disco Inerno" and lots of other really long songs.


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A few more (some may push the definition of what you consider rock or even a song):

100,000 Years (live) - Kiss
A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules from the Centre of the Ultraworld - The Orb
A Piece of the Sky - Swans
A Very Cellular Song - The Incredible String Band
And You and I - Yes
Antennas to Heaven - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Back Side of the Moon - The Orb
Bel Air - Can
Calvary - Quicksilver Messenger Service
The Cinema Show - Genesis
Cyprus Avenue (live) - Van Morrison
Dauðalagið - Sigur Rós
Facelift - Soft Machine
Machine Gun (live) - Jimi Hendrix
Medley: I'm So Proud/Ooh Baby Baby/La La Means I Love You/Cool Jerk - Todd Rundgren
Mmm Skyscraper I Love You - Underworld
Moon in June - Soft Machine
Ocean (live) - The Velvet Underground
Out-Bloody-Rageous - Soft Machine
Popplagið - Sigur Rós
Sea of Tears - Goldie
Sleep - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Soup - Can
Spanish Castles in Space - The Orb
Spec Bebop - Yo La Tengo
Static - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Still Life - Goldie
Supernova at the End of the Universe - The Orb
The Apostate - Swans
The Battle of Epping Forest - Genesis
The Seer - Swans
Timeless: Inner City Life/Pressure/Jah - Goldie

"Born Slippy" is less than ten minutes (see here and here). Also, "Heart of Sunrise" is actually called "Heart of the Sunrise".


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Bruce wrote:
Sampson wrote:
Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar (really high, I mean REALLY high. Like Top Five for acclaim alone)


Where are you alledging this acclaim from?

It's not listed at all at acclaimedmusic.net.


For (obviously not) the last time - acclaimedmusic SUCKS. It's all about what sources their ratings are based on and there are far too many old white men who review albums who are frankly scared of hip-hop. It'd be like if acclaimedmusic existed in 1963 - do you think James Brown would be given his due by the (few) newspapers or magazines who reviewed music? No, Mantovani would do better. Consider the source! It's not nearly as bad in 2013, but a quick look at the highest ranking songs and albums will always show what it favors demographically. Despite that the album from which the song in question comes from is still ranked #2 for the year, showing how monumental it was, even if a lot of the reviewers are out of its target audience. But you also need to understand that unlike most albums where there's one or two standout tracks, this LP is crammed with standouts, so none get the lion's share of the focus. Plus the fact that it wasn't a single means that a lot of those year end "Best Of" song lists won't be as likely to include it as a single that was a radio staple. In other words, stop using acclaimedmusic for anything.

But, since you DID ask a question, here is an answer about the "allegeded" acclaim.

Boston Globe - The centerpiece is the 12-minute meditation on mortality and legacy, “Sing About Me/I’m Dying of Thirst,” which transcends mainstream hip-hop. A triumph.

http://prettymuchamazing.com/reviews/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city - "The story weaves through various themes before climaxing on “Sing About Me, Dying of Thirst.”... “Sing About Me” unpacks this very real scenario from Kendrick’s childhood with troubling and moving results. Kendrick raps from the perspective of his dead friends brother, saying that he knows “exactly what happened/ you ran outside when you heard my brother cry for help/ held him like a newborn baby and made him feel/ like everything was alright and a fight he tried to put up/ but the type of bullet that stuck had one against his will.” The album has moments of frivolity, stupidity, seriousness, and absurdity; however, it is these moments of compassion that make it stick pointedly in the back of your mind.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17253-good-kid-maad-city/ - "the stunning 12-minute denouement "Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst", in which Lamar delivers a verse from a peripheral character that is the album's most dazzling stroke of empathy"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rap-genius/album-review-kendrick-lam_b_2006431.html - This 12 minute, two-part track is the realest song on the album.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/album-reviews/id.1973/title.kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city - There's "Sing About Me, I'm Dying's" awesome perspective flip where he spits as a gang banger, then Keisha's sister (from Section.80) in consecutive verses and both literally speak their demise into existence...With Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City, Compton's flag bearer unveils a group of songs equally potent individually and collectively. This isn't just a debut album. This is a shot at history

http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/10/album-review-kendrick-lamar-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city/ - And once the 12-minute “Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst” really locks in, the album hits its emotional peak

http://idolator.com/7209141/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city-review - “Sing About Me” finds K-Dot spitting over coffeehouse music like some early ’90s throwback — something that, these days, packs more punch than hearing yet another MC bark over 808s and skittering claps... When he does get to boasting, it’s from the perspective of a prostitute as he proclaims, “I’ll probably live longer than you and never fade away,” and then his voice fades away as he’s still rapping. Minutes later Lamar cries, “I’m tired of this shit…I’m tired of running,” sounding far more world-weary than any 25-year-old should. By this point in the album, he has so effectively reconstructed his world that the line hits the listener with a pang of sadness. It’s hard to remember the last time a rap album connected on that level.

Enough for you? I could post more. Honestly, the only other Top Ten candidates that I can see would be the first two Issac Hayes epic length cuts, "Inna Gadda Da Vida", "Desolation Row", maybe the live "Free Bird" (would being a live cut or a studio song already a hit diminish it?), "Maggot Brain", "Shine On...", "Tubular Bells", "Voodoo Chile". The problem is the criteria (while very good for what you're showing) is going to have a dearth of provable popularity for a lot of candidates, simply because songs that long were rarely singles (or were edited as singles) and don't receive the airplay in their full-length versions, so assessing it will be hard. The Hayes songs and Iron Butterfly have the most influence, but the rest are probably not influential for BEING LONG, which I would assume is the primary influence we're talking about.

But regardless, "Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst)", does extremely well in acclaim, better than virtually anything else here.


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