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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:59 am 
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R&B is a genre of rock after about 1960. Before that, it was a synonym for rock. But anyway, I don't feel like commenting on the actual comparisons, so I'll just clarify what "Commercial Impact" means. I believe it means record sales and chart position.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Taro wrote:
Musical and Commercial Impact - I don't know what is commercial impact but in musical impact Led Zeppelin wins

Nah, Stevie wins.

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Influence - Led Zeppelin easily

More like tie.

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Importance of their Recorded Work from 1970-1979 only - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, In Through the Out Door - enough said)

Stevie Wonder (Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale, Songs in the Key of Life, Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants - enough said)

Sorry Zeps, but you can't surpass the Stevie wonder in its pinnacle.

And Wonder is more like a R&B which is as rock as LedZep. Boom, bam!


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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pauldrach wrote:
Taro wrote:
Musical and Commercial Impact - I don't know what is commercial impact but in musical impact Led Zeppelin wins

Nah, Stevie wins.

Taro wrote:
Influence - Led Zeppelin easily

More like tie.

Taro wrote:
Importance of their Recorded Work from 1970-1979 only - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin III, Led Zeppelin IV, Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, In Through the Out Door - enough said)

Stevie Wonder (Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale, Songs in the Key of Life, Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants - enough said)

Sorry Zeps, but you can't surpass the Stevie wonder in its pinnacle.

And Wonder is more like a R&B which is as rock as LedZep. Boom, bam!

Stevie Wonder influenced people only by his singing and perhaps keyboards playing, while Led Zep was an immense influence on Hard rock and Heavy metal. Robert Plant - the greatest rock vocalist after Mercury, Page - one of the best guitarists (only behind of Hendrix, Beck and Clapton), JPJ - a great bass player and keyboardist, Bonham - The best drummer along with Keith Moon. And this, taken together, creates much more influence than Stevie.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Taro wrote:
Stevie Wonder influenced people only by his singing and perhaps keyboards playing

So wrong.

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while Led Zep was an immense influence on Hard rock and Heavy metal.

Yah, that's true.

Taro wrote:
Robert Plant - the greatest rock vocalist after Mercury, Page - one of the best guitarists (only behind of Hendrix, Beck and Clapton), JPJ - a great bass player and keyboardist, Bonham - The best drummer along with Keith Moon. And this, taken together, creates much more influence than Stevie.

You're one of those funny people who thinks music is only about instrumental prowess. That's very funny of you.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Taro wrote:
Stevie Wonder influenced people only by his singing and perhaps keyboards playing, while Led Zep was an immense influence on Hard rock and Heavy metal. Robert Plant - the greatest rock vocalist after Mercury, Page - one of the best guitarists (only behind of Hendrix, Beck and Clapton), JPJ - a great bass player and keyboardist, Bonham - The best drummer along with Keith Moon. And this, taken together, creates much more influence than Stevie.

Instrumental skill =/= influence. Zep is a very influential artist, but much of their influence comes from their '60s music, which would count toward their placement on the '60s list, not this one.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Taro wrote:
Stevie Wonder influenced people only by his singing and perhaps keyboards playing


How about his songwriting?

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Robert Plant - the greatest rock vocalist after Mercury


According to what? DDD?


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Not according to DDD, it seems. We have Jackie Wilson at #2.


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Brian wrote:
Instrumental skill =/= influence. Zep is a very influential artist, but much of their influence comes from their '60s music, which would count toward their placement on the '60s list, not this one.

It doesn't matter. Zep have released 80% of their albms in the 70s, hence they were more influental in that decade.

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How about his songwriting?

How about Zep's songwriting?

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Not according to DDD, it seems. We have Jackie Wilson at #2.

According to the revision, he's at #2.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Oh. That's pretty lame. That would be like having Jimmy Page as the second best guitarist.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Oh. That's pretty lame. That would be like having Jimmy Page as the second best guitarist.

I never told that. Though I think that he must be higher than Van Halen.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Taro wrote:
It doesn't matter. Zep have released 80% of their albms in the 70s, hence they were more influental in that decade.

But not more influential than Stevie Wonder.

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How about Zep's songwriting?

Stealing old blues tracks, re-working them and slapping Page's name on the credits? Stunning :zoid:

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According to the revision, he's at #2.

And? According to Rolling Stone, he's #15. I've seen lists with him at #22, #27 [behind the likes of Josh Groban and the lead singer of Tokio Hotel (!!)], #30 (below Ted Nugent, King Diamond and Chuck Billy) and countless others with him far lower that #2.
Yeah, the list on this site was assembled by professional vocalists with lots of expertise and knowledge on the subject who actually researched their stuff, but doesn't mean it's the truth, it's still just a bunch of people saying 'Robert Plant is the 2nd greatest male rock vocalist after Freddie Mercury' (no disrespect meant). There are people who'd laud several others as the 'best singer of all time' before even considering peeps like Freddie and Robert. Doesn't mean anything.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Stealing old blues tracks, re-working them and slapping Page's name on the credits? Stunning :zoid:


No, don't be silly.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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Sorry Georgi. :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: 100 Greatest Rock Music Artists Of The 1970's
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And? According to Rolling Stone, he's #15.

Rolling Stone that stinky rat magazine. But he is still ahead of Mercury ;) Take care...


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Taro wrote:
I never told that. Though I think that he must be higher than Van Halen.


Oh, I never said you did. I just thought it would be a bit silly to have him at #2.

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Stealing old blues tracks, re-working them and slapping Page's name on the credits? Stunning :zoid:


Most of what was stolen was lyrics. Zeppelin were pretty great in the song writing department.


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