Bruce wrote:
Sampson wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Sampson wrote:
I guess if he kicked you off because he doesn't want any dissent on his board that means he can go back to dictating all of the topics and steer the discussion to whatever he wants and have the few who show up there agree with him or face the consequences.
Actually, I think he would have let me stay if it was just him, but two or three of the regulars told him to ban me, and one schmuck pulled a "I'm out of here until you ban him" grandstand, and so he caved in rather than lose one (or more) of his whopping four regular posters.
He also measures influence almost entirely based only on remakes of the artist's songs. I think you're right though in that the board seems to be a circle jerk of 3 or 4 ignorant schmucks agreeing with each other's falacies.
Do you think he has any idea that "The Train Kept A Rollin" is actually a Tiny Bradshaw original, not Johnny Burnette & The R&R Trio? I seriously doubt it, if he gives them the most deserving spot for enshrinement based totally on influence (assuming he means guitar feedback, though they weren't the first, which I pointed out to him) and who remade whose songs.
Yeah, he knows about Bradshaw, but he was very enamored with the fact that the Beatles did one of the Burnette trio songs. I didn't even realize that.
Making the case for Chubby Checker, I used his idea of remakes as being influence to show that Sam Cooke, The Miracles, Ventures and others remade Chubby records. I also mentioned Steve Alaimo and Ernie Freeman as others who remade Chubby songs, and he never heard of them.
The Beatles actually did this real good, and very close to the Trio version.
So this guy's entire case is built upon a single song that is all but unknown to the general populace in BOTH versions? (It's not as if the Beatles take on it was a #1 hit). If he wants to have any credibility he's gotta be consistent and since the Beatles cut three Larry Williams songs and the Rolling Stones copped one, wouldn't that alone make Williams, not the R&R Trio, the most deserving based on his own faulty myopic criteria? Jeez. Chuck Willis meanwhile had HOW many of his songs done by other huge stars, not to mention his revision of CC Rider (if he's giving Burnette credit for Train, and I know he is, whether or not he admits it, then he'd have to give more credit to Willis for CC Rider)? Johnny Ace had "Pledging My Love" cut by a plethora of superstars including the biggest male AND female rock stars ever, plus the fact that the original itself was one of the handful of most important and influential songs in rock history, but apparently that pales in comparison to having a song that sold 17 copies be cut by The Beatles as one of DOZENS of covers on the BBC when they had a need to fill out the programming with different songs and were loathe to do too many originals! They also cut Chan Romero's Hippy Hippy Shake there, maybe ol' Chan is deserving too.
Look out, The Top Notes will be his new number one before long, at least their song was remade twice into actual hits by two HOF artists.
No wonder you got kicked out of there, it's like sending Albert Pujols to the plate in a Little League game, they must be ducking for cover having to deal with somebody who questions their stupefying logic.
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